Sri Jagannatha Jyotish discussion articles - Collection

Saturn Remedy

2009-10-14T01:08:00.001-04:00

Hare Rama Krishna,

Dear Sanjay Rath,

a very well tested "remedy" for Shani's affliction involving the horse shoe has the following criteria:

a.a horse shoe has to be from the hind leg (preferably left), from a totally pitch black horse.

b. This should be obtained on saturday,preferably at the first hour after daybreak.(some say during amavasya)

c.This horse shoe will then be given to a blacksmith , who should fashion a ring from it (small piece should be taken only), -and this is MOST important- without the use of fire! When hammering the ring, a bucketful of ice cold water should be kept nearby, so if the ring heats up, it should immediately be immersed into the water,thus cooled down.

The ring, thus made have to be duly consecrated by the usual methods. Then it can be worn.

I was lucky enough to be guided through the entire process some 10 years ago and outside of Haridwar,found a camp of travelling Gujarati gypsies,who had a "mobile" blacksmith workshop constantly up and running.(The blacksmith, by the way, was pitch black- never in my life I have seen such "black" gypsy.)

They were somewhat amused at the rigorous requirements,but they obliged just the same. The ring was made- under my constant gaze and supervision, and was given to a friend, who was suffering from a truly terrible affliction . (Shani going through a rashi with 19 bindus in SAV and ZERO bindus in BAV! )This ring was given to him with the advice of fasting on saturdays.As a result, the suffering was cut down and minimised to a large extent.Almost immediately!

My two cents worth on this matter.

With deep respect to all:

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath@gmail.com>
Date: 2009/10/13
Subject: RE: [sohamsa] Re: hanging black horse shoe on main door wall
To: sohamsa@yahoogroups.com

om gurave namah

Dear Arpad ji

Namaste and thank you very much for giving out those details. That was what I was hoping someone who really knows will share. The requirement is very very stringent and those so called horse shoe rings found in the market are quite bogus.Secondly, I am not sure whether this is also to be used at the entrance of a house or at the back-door and would like to know if anyone has anything to share on this.

In Orissa we do not have many horses and therefore these remedies are not regularly available. What we use for the ring of Saturn is the nail drawn from the front keel of a fishing boat which has been in the seas for a long time and has had a lot of good catch i.e. many fishes were caught, others would have dashed against the boat when the net was dragged and died. Such a ferocious nail is the *true kantaka* (nail, thorn) and is what Saturn represents. Such a nail is to be obtained from a fisherman or ideally fisherman's wife (maybe reminder for Vedavyasa's mother)

Then it is to be kept in mustard oil for one amavasya and thereafter it is to be used to fashion the ring, armlet or anklet.

The same conditions of no heat treatment and other things do apply. I have never used this as I was prohibited from doing so and had to suffer one long shani dasha ... that was the old system.

Coming back once again, anyone willing to say a few words on the horse shoe at home ...

Regards

Sanjay Rath

Reply TO: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sohamsa/message/19779

Meaning of one verse from Rig Veda

2009-08-31T01:53:00.001-04:00

From: pvr108 <pvr@charter.net>
Date: 2009/8/30
Subject: [vedic-wisdom] Re: Meaning of one verse from Rig Veda
To: vedic-wisdom@yahoogroups.com

Namaste Rajarshi,

> I cannot give a complete sense of what this verse is saying
> (will try later), but can give an overall big picture first.

Unfortunately, this verse depends on the context built by the previous 14 verses of RV 10.95. Though I intended to type out a detailed mail with my independent interpretation of all the verses in that chapter, it is a big task and I am unable to find time for it.

Fortunately, I chanced upon a nice website giving the Hindi translation (including word-by-word meanings) of all the four Vedas by Swami Dayananda Saraswati. Though not at the same depth as Aurobindo's commentary (which was limited to a few verses), his exhaustive work is quite good.

If you are comfortable with Hindi language, please use this website for commentary on Vedas in future. It is far far far far better than the English commentary on the site you referred to. I checked out some sample verses and quite pleased with the commentary. This work is similar in wavelength to my own thinking and I am comfortable recommending this. Though it does not internalize enough in several places, it is not dumb and silly like other internet commentaries.

In the case of RV 10.95 that you enquired about, Swami Dayananda Saraswati interpreted Pururava as a cloud containing water and Urvashi as vidyut (electricity, i.e. lightening). This is quite intelligent and acceptable to me, though my view expressed in the mail below internalizes it further.

The website is

http://www.aryasamajjamnagar.org/

Click the link on the right for Rigveda bhashya (bhashya=commentary). God bless Arya Samaj folks at Jamnagar!

Best regards,
Narasimha
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--- In vedic-wisdom@yahoogroups.com, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr@...> wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vedic-wisdom/message/2138:

> Namaste,
>
> Veda is for self-realization. Veda deals with various aspects of dual and non-dual self. There are hardly any good translations or commentaries on Veda in today's world. Aurobindo's commentary (on a small number of riks) is the only intelligent commentary I have come across.
>
> Just as Adi Sankara devoted his life to commenting on some Upanishads, someone like him needs to come and devote life to commenting on Veda, if we are to have a good commentary. Actually, Vivekananda commented on his last day (1902 July 4) on the commentaries on Veda. He had his disciples read a verse from Sukla Yajur Veda, read the commentary by Mahidhara and said that Mahidhara's interpretation did not appeal to his mind. He connected the verse to some later day tantra concepts and wished that his disciples would make an attempt at fresh independent interpretation of mantras from Veda, as the existing commentaries were not good. This was one of the last few desires expressed by Vivekananda before he gave up his body.
>
> Aurobindo said that he had a vision of Vivekananda in his prison cell and that Vivekananda explained some things to him. It is interesting that Aurobindo came up with a sublime commentary on some Vedic verses in later years.
>
> * * *
>
> Do not trust any commentary on Veda. More so the one at the website you mentioned. I checked out a few verses. The translations given by them are usually quite silly. Ignore that website.
>
> * * *
>
> Commenting on a verse from Veda is different. It is not merely an intellectual activity requiring scholarship and logical thinking.
>
> I cannot give a complete sense of what this verse is saying (will try later), but can give an overall big picture first. The verses around this verse alternate between having Pururava as the rishi (seer) and Urvashi as the devata (deity) and having Urvashi as the rishi (deity) and Pururava as the devata (deity). This is an exchange between Pururava and Urvashi as they pursued each other. You can read various puranic stories about Pururava, the great king from Chandra vamsha, and Urvashi, the beautiful apsara (celestial nymph). They were attracted to each other and lived together on earth. They are personifications of some qualities inside us.
>
> Urvashi comes from ura and vasha. It means one who has the power to control and pull the heart. Urvashi is personification of the attraction that pulls one's heart towards various objects in the field of duality. As a sadhaka does great tapascharya and starts to overcome duality, Urvashi is sent to test one. Urvashi successfully seducing a sadhaka and disturbing his tapascharya means that the sadhaka succumbed to the power of attraction that pulled his heart towards objects and his heart desired something.
>
> Pururava means a crying a lot or crying majestically. He is a personification of the emotional nature and compassion within us. No wonder he is a king in the Chandra vamsha. The solar and lunar lineages that are popular in the scriptures have to do with the solar and lunar channels - Pingala and Ida (respectively). Ida nadi is the channel of emotions, intuition, feeling, compassion etc. So Pururava is from that lineage.
>
> While everyone is charmed by Urvashi - the power of attraction that binds one's heart, Urvashi herself was charmed by Pururava, the majestic and noble king. Pururava rescued Urvashi from a demon once. The majestic and noble quality of compassion saves the power of attraction from having to combine with meaner motives. One's heart can be pulled towards various objects out of the spirit of self-gratification (a demon) or out of kindness and compassion (Pururava). When compassion arises in one's heart, then the heart's attraction to others is driven by compassion rather than the spirit of self-gratification.
>
> The verses you referred to are a dialog between the personification of compassion and personification of the power of attraction that pulls one's heart towards various objects. This whole series of verses has to be interpreted in abstract and internalized terms. It is not a commentary on men and women at all.
>
> More later..
>
> Best regards,
> Narasimha
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam
> Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana
> Spirituality: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vedic-wisdom
> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net
> Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org
> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: rajarshi nandy
> To: vedic-wisdom@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 10:54 PM
> Subject: [vedic-wisdom] Meaning of one verse from Rig Veda
> Dear Narasimhaji and others
>
> Can you kindly explain the meaning of the following verse from the Rig Veda:
>

> purÅ«ravo mÄ má¹›thÄ mÄ pra papto mÄ tvÄ vá¹›kÄ so aÅ›ivÄ sa uká¹£an |

> na vai straiá¹‡Ä ni sakhyÄ ni santi sÄ lÄ vá¹›kÄ á¹‡Ä á¹ƒhá¹›dayÄ nyetÄ || (Rig Veda Book 10, Hym XCV)

>
> http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/rvsan/rv10095.htm
>
> The english translation provided is as follows:
>

> 15 Nay, do not die, PurÅ«ravas, nor vanish: let not the evil-omened wolves devour thee.

> With women there can be no lasting friendship: hearts of hyenas are the hearts of women.
>
> http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/rigveda/rv10095.htm
>
> Is this translation correct? If so, then is this a negative comment on all women?
>
> -Regards
> Rajarshi

Query regarding Homam / Tarpanam

2009-08-28T03:06:00.001-04:00

Sri Narasimha Garu,

Namaskaram.

If one has to do both Homam and Tarpanam daily, what would be your suggestion in terms of which would be the order one has to perform both.. is it that first do homam and then Tarpanam or vice versa or it does not matter?

I have downloaded the all tarpana manuals from the website and thinking to start off with super short process from the coming poornima day. As i already do the regular Homam which consumes 45 mins in the morning, just wanted to keep it simple for tarpana, please me you guidance what should be the order.

Thanks

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr@charter.net>
Date: 2009/8/28
Subject: [vedic-wisdom] Re: Query regarding Homam / Tarpanam
To: vedic-wisdom@yahoogroups.com

Dear Krishna Kanth,

Super-short tarpana is good enough.

Though traditionally homam is done after japam and tarpana, I strongly recommend making homam the first activity and then doing japam and tarpana. That is more appropriate for the times we live in.

People of old times had brightly burning bhootaagni inside. Their performance of a daily fire ritual was just a responsibility towards the universe. They were doing fire ritual for maintaining dharma in the universe and not necessarily for saving their own bhootaagni from being extinguished.

Most people today - even those who are re-incarnations of very good yogis from the last life - are initially lacking in internal purity and their bhootaagni is very very very weak and actually pretty much extinguished in most people. The times are such, the culture is such, our lifestyles are such, the influences on our minds are such and the energy filling the air we breath is such. Thus, one's reason for doing a homam is different from the old times. When one does a fire ritual, one does one's dharma towards the universe and, at the same time, improves one's own internal bhootaagni a little bit.

For doing any spiritual activity - japam or tarpana or just reading a scripture or contemplation - strong bhootaagni is very important for internalizing and digesting the experience spiritually. If a person with a very weak or extinguished bhootaagni does such spiritual activities, the impact is negligible. As a person's bhootaagni is maximized immediately following a ritual with an external fire, it helps one do a better job with other spiritual activities.

Thus, my recommendation is the same as Narayan's. Do homam, meditate as the poornaahuti burns and then do tarpana. In fact, if you are only doing deva and rishi tarpanas, you can even integrate it with homam. You can do deva and rishi tarpanas while sitting in front of the fire, after the uttaraangam and before the poornaahuti, and then go on to offer poornaahuti. However, if you also want to include pitris (deceased ancestors) along with devas and rishis, I suggest doing it separately after the homam.

* * *

I want to narrate an incident related to tarpana manuals.

Manish thinks very highly of tarpana and asked me to create a manual for it last year. In the case of homam, I studied and practiced several approaches and experienced some things internally and knew what I was talking about, before the homam manuals were created. In case of tarpana, my experience and internal understanding was limited when I created the manuals. Though I had Manish's blessings, I had some doubts on whether what I consolidated (as 3 options) was good enough or not. On the day chosen for making the manuals available, I did my Chandi homam in the morning and prayed to the 18-handed Mahalakshmi/Durga idol I use for homam, "O Mother, I was very comfortable with homam manuals, but my experience in tarpana is limited. But Manish asked me to create and distribute tarpana manuals. Several important people may be using these manuals in future. If what I consolidated is good and you approve it, please give me some signal today as I perform the procedure. I will understand. I will publish them only if you give your approval."

Then I sat down to perform tarpanas. The moment I invoked gods and rishis into the kalasha, there was such a powerful wind outside (the windows were open). The sound of the wind was really loud. I started deva tarpana and said "brahmaa tripyataam" and left water. Then I took water into my palm again and said "vishnuh tripyataam". As soon as I left that water, I heard big thup-thup sounds from outside. When I lifted my head to see through the window, I saw that heavy rain with really big drops had just started. It did not rain in the previous 10 days and there were no noticeable clouds in the sky that morning. It was very sunny and bright until then. But a heavy rain started as soon as tarpana started and the rain continued till the end of the day.

I took the wind and the rain as signals of approval from the Mother, thanked her at the end and went ahead to publish the manuals. As I performed the ritual more times later, I slowly understood the real meaning and purpose of tarpana. For many people with weak minds that are afflicted by rinas to deceased ancestors with mental weaknesses, tarpana is a very very useful ritual. I now fully understand why Manish, or Vimalananda for that matter, emphasized performing both homam and tarpana and how they supplement each other. I am glad that more people are considering performing a quick homam and a quick tarpana on a regular basis. Even a combination of a 30-minute homam and a 5-minute tarpana performed daily will go a long way in freeing one.

Best regards,
Narasimha
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TP Solar vs Soli-lunar Example

2009-08-25T01:53:00.001-04:00

From: Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr@charter.net>
Date: 2009/8/24
Subject: [sjc-guru] TP Solar vs Soli-lunar Example
To: sohamsa@yahoogroups.com, sjc-guru@yahoogroups.com,
vedic-astrology@yahoogroups.com, JyotishGroup@yahoogroups.com

Namaste,

I am a proponent of free will being a continual modifier of destiny.
However, Jay's outburst is not helpful in putting things in
perspective and I will not comment on free will vs Jyotish principles
at this time. But there is one point I want to make on TP chart
calculation itself.

* * *

Sometimes, it is not the lack of "proper logic", but wrong
calculations due to a wrong teaching that can do one in. Let me give a
clear-cut example that illustrates my point using TP charts.

* * *

Birthdata is 1970 April 4, 5:47:13 pm (IST), Machilipatnam, India. The
native left his country for the first time on 1991 August 14 night and
came to US on 1991 August 15 evening.

He was born on Krishna Chaturdasi tithi (soli-lunar day) in the
soli-lunar month of Phalguna and solar month of Meena (Sun in Pi).

If you go by Sanjay ji's teachings (and mine too, so far) on Tithi
Pravesha, the annual TP chart of 1991-92 is cast on 1991 April 13 at
8:00:13 am (IST). It is a Krishna Chaturdasi tithi in the soli-lunar
month of *Chaitra* and solar month of Meena (Sun in Pi). Because we do
not care about the soli-lunar month and take the soli-lunar day of
birth (Krishna Chaturdasi) in the solar month of birth (Meena), we get
this TP chart. But please note that the soli-lunar month (Chaitra)
does not match that at birth (Phalguna)!

The native left India and came to USA in Moon-Moon antardasa as per
Tithi Ashtottari dasa and Venus dasa as per Vimsottari dasa. In the
rasi chart, Moon is the 3rd lord in 11th with parivartana with 11th
lord and 4th lord Sun joins him. In D-4, Moon is again the 3rd lord in
11th. Why did he give a foreign journey for the first time in life? If
you take Vimsottari dasa itself, Venus is lagna lord in lagna in both
rasi and D-4. He makes even less sense.

This makes very little sense. Some people may be able to somehow
justify the above, but the alternative below is far simpler, far more
logical and far more palatable.

* * *

In JHora 7.33, select "Preferences", "Related to calculations" and
"Tithi Pravesha calculation options". By default, "Use solar (as
opposed to soli-lunar) months in Tithi Pravesha" checkbox is checked.
Uncheck it to stick to soli-lunar months with soli-lunar days.

Now make the 1991-92 TP chart. You will now get it on 1991 March 14 at
5:48:38 pm (IST). It is a Krishna Chaturdasi tithi in the soli-lunar
month of *Phalguna* and solar month of *Kumbha* (Sun in Aq). Though
solar month (Kumbha) does not match that at birth (Meena), the
soli-lunar month (Phalguna) matches now.

With this chart, you will see that the native went abroad in
Mars-Venus antardasa as per Tithi Ashtottari dasa. Mars is the 9th
lord and also badhaka lord. Venus is in the 9th house and badhaka
sthana. Jalapatana sahamam at the end of watery Pisces is within 2 deg
from Venus at the beginning of Aries. Even in D-4, Mars is the 7th and
12th lord and Venus is in the 12th house with the 9th lord and badhaka
lord. Taking Mars as lagna, Venus is in 12th in rasi and Venus is the
9th lord in 3rd from Mars in D-4.

Even if we use just Vimsottari dasa, the event was given by
Saturn-Rahu. In rasi, Saturn and Rahu own 7th and are close to
paradesa sahamam. In D-4, Saturn is 9th lord and badhaka lord
occupying 12th and Rahu is in 9th house in badhaka sthana.

The event makes perfect sense based on both dasas. The logic is so
simple, crisp, clear-cut and coherent that it can be used as a
classical text book example!

* * *

Now, my question to intelligent and honest seekers of this knowledge
of rishis is this: Do you think that the former calculation based on
solar months is correct and we are unable to see the result clearly
because we are missing some logic? Or do you think that the latter
calculation based on soli-lunar months must be correct as things line
up so perfectly with it?

* * *

I have seen many examples like this, where soli-lunar month based TP
shows events much much better than solar month based TP (which was
taught by us at SJC until now). However, it is not as simple as always
using soli-lunar month based TP as given by current JHora. There are
several examples where solar month based calculations are superior.
There is something amiss right now, with respect to how soli-lunar
months are reckoned.

I worked on this riddle extensively for a long time now. I have
consolidated everything based on all the border case TP examples where
I *honestly* determined which version is working better. After
studying all the examples, I clearly understood what is going on and
have a modified soli-lunar month based approach that works in all
cases. It is not available in JHora right now. I will wait for some
more time before I make my findings public. Until then, if you are so
inclined, please try soli-lunar month based TP if solar month based TP
(default) does not explain things well in a particular year and you
have to compromise and come up with some round-about logic. Atleast be
aware of this issue and a potential incorrectness in our teaching so
far.

Bottomline: Freedom put it very well below - we do have some "blind
spots". However, sometimes the very calculations may be based on wrong
principles and hence the very foundation wrong. When you are sitting
in a wrong car, blind spots cannot be eliminated no matter how hard
you adjust the mirrors.

One Year Graha gochar /Transit view(corrected)

2009-08-20T06:39:00.000-04:00

Graha(-R)	DateTime	Longitude	Sign	Comments
Venus	21-Aug-2009	90.43	Cancer	Venus Changing sign
Mercury-R	07-Sep-2009	162.22	Virgo	Mercury Getting Retrograde
Saturn	09-Sep-2009	150.03	Virgo	Saturn Changing sign
Venus	15-Sep-2009	120.42	Leo	Venus Changing sign
Sun	16-Sep-2009	150.23	Virgo	Sun Changing sign
Mercury-R	24-Sep-2009	149.71	Leo	Mercury Changing sign
Mercury	29-Sep-2009	147.63	Leo	Mercury Getting Forward
Mercury	04-Oct-2009	150.04	Virgo	Mercury Changing sign
Mars	05-Oct-2009	90.17	Cancer	Mars Changing sign
Venus	10-Oct-2009	150.47	Virgo	Venus Changing sign
Jupiter	13-Oct-2009	293.17	Capricorn	Jupiter Getting Forward
Sun	17-Oct-2009	180.23	Libra	Sun Changing sign
Mercury	24-Oct-2009	180.19	Libra	Mercury Changing sign
trueNode-R	02-Nov-2009	269.99	Sagittarius	trueNode Changing sign
Venus	03-Nov-2009	180.33	Libra	Venus Changing sign
Mercury	12-Nov-2009	210.45	Scorpio	Mercury Changing sign
Sun	16-Nov-2009	210.24	Scorpio	Sun Changing sign
Venus	27-Nov-2009	210.42	Scorpio	Venus Changing sign
Mercury	01-Dec-2009	240.43	Sagittarius	Mercury Changing sign
Sun	15-Dec-2009	240.13	Sagittarius	Sun Changing sign
Jupiter	19-Dec-2009	300.04	Aquarius	Jupiter Changing sign
Mars-R	20-Dec-2009	115.69	Cancer	Mars Getting Retrograde
Venus	21-Dec-2009	240.61	Sagittarius	Venus Changing sign
Mercury-R	26-Dec-2009	267.78	Sagittarius	Mercury Getting Retrograde
Venus	13-Jan-2010	270.18	Capricorn	Venus Changing sign
Saturn-R	13-Jan-2010	160.65	Virgo	Saturn Getting Retrograde
Sun	14-Jan-2010	270.19	Capricorn	Sun Changing sign
Mercury	15-Jan-2010	251.56	Sagittarius	Mercury Getting Forward
Mercury	06-Feb-2010	270.65	Capricorn	Mercury Changing sign
Venus	06-Feb-2010	300.32	Aquarius	Venus Changing sign
Sun	12-Feb-2010	300.14	Aquarius	Sun Changing sign
Mercury	26-Feb-2010	300.78	Aquarius	Mercury Changing sign
Venus	02-Mar-2010	330.34	Pisces	Venus Changing sign
Mars	10-Mar-2010	96.29	Cancer	Mars Getting Forward
Sun	14-Mar-2010	330.27	Pisces	Sun Changing sign
Mercury	14-Mar-2010	330.68	Pisces	Mercury Changing sign
Venus	26-Mar-2010	0.13	Aries	Venus Changing sign
Mercury	29-Mar-2010	0.03	Aries	Mercury Changing sign
Sun	14-Apr-2010	0.41	Aries	Sun Changing sign
Mercury-R	18-Apr-2010	18.62	Aries	Mercury Getting Retrograde
Venus	20-Apr-2010	30.22	Taurus	Venus Changing sign
Jupiter	02-May-2010	330.07	Pisces	Jupiter Changing sign
Mercury	11-May-2010	8.65	Aries	Mercury Getting Forward
Sun	14-May-2010	30.05	Taurus	Sun Changing sign
Venus	15-May-2010	60.51	Gemini	Venus Changing sign
Mars	26-May-2010	120.02	Leo	Mars Changing sign
Saturn	30-May-2010	153.83	Virgo	Saturn Getting Forward
Mercury	06-Jun-2010	30.76	Taurus	Mercury Changing sign
Venus	09-Jun-2010	90.26	Cancer	Venus Changing sign
Sun	15-Jun-2010	60.26	Gemini	Sun Changing sign
Mercury	22-Jun-2010	60.67	Gemini	Mercury Changing sign
Venus	05-Jul-2010	120.34	Leo	Venus Changing sign
Mercury	06-Jul-2010	90.64	Cancer	Mercury Changing sign
Sun	16-Jul-2010	90.31	Cancer	Sun Changing sign
Mars	20-Jul-2010	150.26	Virgo	Mars Changing sign
Mercury	23-Jul-2010	120.43	Leo	Mercury Changing sign
Jupiter-R	23-Jul-2010	339.39	Pisces	Jupiter Getting Retrograde
Venus	01-Aug-2010	150.05	Virgo	Venus Changing sign
Sun	17-Aug-2010	120.46	Leo	Sun Changing sign
Mercury-R	20-Aug-2010	145.05	Leo	Mercury Getting Retrograde
Venus	01-Sep-2010	180.18	Libra	Venus Changing sign
Mars	05-Sep-2010	180.05	Libra	Mars Changing sign
Mercury	12-Sep-2010	131.35	Leo	Mercury Getting Forward
Sun	17-Sep-2010	150.47	Virgo	Sun Changing sign

RESEARCH: How to find bhavas (houses) from various references?

2009-08-18T02:03:00.001-04:00

From: Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr@charter.net>

Date: 2009/8/18
Subject: [sohamsa] RESEARCH: How to find bhavas (houses) from various references?
To: vedic-astrology@yahoogroups.com, JyotishGroup@yahoogroups.com, sohamsa@yahoogroups.com

Namaste friends,

Parasara indicated in one place in BPHS that bhavas (houses) could extend across two signs. He never really defined how to find bhavas, but said in the chapter on special ascendants that a "bhava chakra" (house chart), or a "bhava koshtha" as he called it, can be prepared from these references by placing various planets in various houses, just like we do from lagna. When discussing ashtakavarga and planetary significations, he said that bhavas can be seen from Sun, Moon, Mars etc.

So, we can find bhavas from various references, including lagna, planets and special lagnas, and place various planets in various houses from the reference.

But the key question is: Exactly how do we find bhavas from a given reference?

Do we take the entire sign as a house? If we do that, then Parasara's statement on possibly houses extending across two signs becomes illogical.

Do we take 15 deg before the reference and 15 deg after the reference as the first house and take other houses accordingly?

Do we use unequal division methods like Sripathi houses, Krishnamoorthy houses, Koch houses etc?

I believe the answer exists within BPHS!

* * *

Parasara declared in "graha sphuta drishti kathanaadhyaaya" (planetary longitudinal aspect evaluation chapter): "I have previously explained the planetary aspects based on the *signs* occupied by planets. Now I will explain another kind of planetary aspects based on the *houses* from planets, which are dependent on their longitudes."

Then Parasara went on to state that Mars has an aspect on the 4th and 8th houses from him, Jupiter has an aspect on the 5th and 9th houses from him and Saturn has an aspect on the 3rd and 10th houses from him.

Of course, one may say "we all know this. What is new in this". But, what *follows* is truly significant, for it clarifies what these "houses" from Mars, Jupiter and Saturn truly are. After all, Parasara went on further and *quantified* houses based on longitudes!!!

Parasara gave a way to evaluate planetary aspects based on the planet's longitude. In the case of Mars, 90-120 deg and 210-240 deg from Mars get a higher score compared to other planets. In the case of Jupiter, 120-150 deg and 240-270 deg from Jupiter get a higher score compared to other planets. So these are the definitions of the corresponding houses from corresponding planets!!! The 4th house from Mars is 90-120 deg from him. The 5th house from Jupiter is 120-150 deg from him. And so on.

Of course, these values are used in shadbala and programmed by me into Jagannatha Hora long back. But it was only a few months back that it dawned on me that here is a clear teaching from Parasara on how to find bhavas (houses) from reference points! Then I started experimenting with it and satisfied myself over time.

It was a radical departure from what I was used to, but I had to accept the words of a maharshi. Moreover, I was intellectually satisfied in the end, after trying out on many charts - natal and annual.

* * *

The following is the definition of houses from a reference:

1st house: 0-30 deg from the reference
2nd house: 30-60 deg from the reference
3rd house: 60-90 deg from the reference
4th house: 90-120 deg from the reference
5th house: 120-150 deg from the reference
6th house: 150-180 deg from the reference
7th house: 180-210 deg from the reference
8th house: 210-240 deg from the reference
9th house: 240-270 deg from the reference
10th house: 270-300 deg from the reference
11th house: 300-330 deg from the reference
12th house: 330-360 deg from the reference

If you use the above table, the longitude ranges Parasara mentioned for the 3rd, 4th, 5th, 8th, 9th and 10th houses regarding the special aspects of Mars, Jupiter and Saturn will come out correctly.

I recommend using the above table for finding houses with respect to lagna, special lagnas, planets etc. It is very simple to check manually.

* * *

We say that the 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th and 12th houses from lagna form the visible half. With the above method, those houses will consist of 180-360 deg from lagna and that half is indeed visible. If we define houses as entire signs or as "15 deg before/after", then a part of 7th house is visible and the remaining part of 7th house is invisible. Similarly, a part of the 1st house is visible and the remaining part of 1st house is invisible. But, using the above method, the entire 1st house is invisible and the entire 7th house is visible (which should be the case in the first place).

* * *

The above will make a difference in many charts with regard to which planets are in which houses from lagna, from GL, from Moon, from Jupiter etc. If you are interested, you can experiment with this in many charts and see if it gives better results. It is more logical and it is based on Parasara's teachings. I have been experimenting with this for several months and I am satisfied.

I will not give too many examples at this time, but let me illustrate the differences with a couple of examples.

Example 1: 1971 April 27, 6:30 am (IST), Bombay, India

The native got married in June 2007 in Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa as per regular Vimsottari dasa. Though Jupiter occupies the 8th sign from the sign containing lagna, he is actually in the 7th house from lagna. Being the 9th lord in 7th, he can give marriage.

Example 2 (John Denver): 1943 December 31, 2:55 pm (PDT), 105w00, 33n20

He died in October 1997 in Ketu-Rahu antardasa. Though Ketu and Rahu occupy the 9th and 3rd signs from the sign occupied by lagna, they are actually in the 8th and 2nd houses from lagna. Being the 7th lord in the 8th house, Ketu is a maaraka. Being a malefic in the 2nd house, Rahu is a maaraka.

Example 3 (Swami Vivekananda): 1863 January 12, 6:33 am (5:54 hrs east of GMT), 88e30, 22n40

He became a renowned world teacher with the Chicago parliament of religions in 1893. Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa was running as per regular Vimsottari dasa. Though Jupiter is in the 11th sign from the sign occupied by lagna and GL, he is in the 10th house from lagna and from GL. That is why Jupiter played an important role in the karma (work) and made him a world teacher.

* * *

This being a radical change from the norm, I want to go slow with this one. For now, I will sign off and let interested scholars and students process and digest this information. I may try to write more later. For example, the impact of this on ashtakavarga is tricky and significant.

Best regards,
Narasimha
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On Various Commentaries Jaimini

2009-08-11T01:17:00.001-04:00

Various Commentaries Jaimini

From: Freedomji <freeflowaum@yahoo.com>
Date: 2009/8/11
Subject: Re: [sohamsa] Jaimini
To: sohamsa@yahoogroups.com

Hare Rama Krsna

One can read all the available commentaries, especially if they have a clear mind and can remember what each commentator has said, all the variability's, take the time to test all these various techniques, and remember what works for them and still be clear about who believes what in scholarly circles.. This is a very high path indeed for one who has the time and intelligence..

Guruji (Sri Sanjay Rath) has read all these commentaries, understood them, tested them, (has rare commentaries not available to the average public), and has the teaching of a living lineage (Parampara) of Jaimini which he was born into and is required to continue. Sanjay's family lineage was invited to Orissa by the King of Puri because of their jnana.

When Guruji teaches, he mentions the various opinions held by other authors, shows his traditions views and uses logic to show why his tradition believes what it does. He uses the shlokas themselves (previous shlokas/concepts), other available texts, and his experience with multiple example charts to show how the sutras work. And to the serious student when you have understood a sutra from Guruji, you are also aware of other opinions (which Guruji always mentions) and can test these right then and there as Guruji teaches.

I am a serious scholar, but I have still not fully digested all the Jaimini teachings of Guruji to have any need to read some other commentaries. And by studying the books and books of notes I have from Guruji's lectures, I am well aware of Nilakantha, Rangacharya, etc and their various divergent opinions from Guruji's lineage. Sri Achyutananda has taught that there are endless books and teachings in this world but that we must be like Sarasvati's swan and drink the milk not the water.

Guruji has never discouraged anyone from going above and beyond and studying all available literature. He has never limited knowledge, nor been possessive or unreasonably secretive with the giving of his knowledge. But at the same time, it is very rajasic to study other commentaries when you have not fully understood your own guru's.

"One of the members of this list has expressed his views", but his words reveal a lack of proper respect for the very host of the forum he has spoken within. It is wonderful that you agree with him. People are welcome to give their opinions, and to receive the opinions of others with respect for each other.

Namah Shivaya

Freedom

How many chapters in Jaimini Upadesha Sutra?

2009-08-05T02:44:00.001-04:00

> Dear Groups,
>
> I have a basic query and if someone can throw some light on it, I shall be
> grateful.
>
> As per the preface that I read in Sanjay Ji's book, Sanjay ji mentioned that
> there were in total 8 Chapters.
>
> Commentary on only 4 chapters are given.
>
> It was not clear where are the other 4 chapters? What happened to them?
> Have those chapters been kept with any parampara or is that knowledge lost?
>
> Does any one know what was in those 4 chapters?
>
> Does Sanjay ji's Grandfather or Sanmukha Telis Guru ji know about those 4
> missing chapter?
>
> It would be a tremendous loss if those have gone missing?
>
> Can anyone throw some light on this please.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Cheers !!!
> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca

From: Shanmukha <teli_sha2002@yahoo.co.in>
Date: 2009/8/5
Subject: [sohamsa] Re: Jaimini - Upadesha Sutra
To: sohamsa@yahoogroups.com

Om Namah Sivaya

Namaste,

The following is the information I have from my study.

Sage Jaimini wrote 8 chapters, four chapters each on mathematical and
predictive part. The four chapters that was commented by Sri Sanjay,
P.S.Sastri, Suresh Chandra Mishra etc. belong to Predictive Part.

Even in the 3rd and 4th chapters, there are two versions. The sutras
in Neelakantha commentary differes from that is available in print
now. This was told by the scholar, who is fortunate to gethold of
Neelakantha commentary with him.

Yes, You read it correct, Neelakantha commentary for 3rd and 4th chapters.

That again differes from the commentary by Soamanatha Mishra for 3rd
and 4th chapters.

Yet, most of the sutras in 3rd and 4th chapters are in line with the
manuscript available in a manuscript library, so we can say 3rd and
4th chapters available now might be authentic.

Mu Guru Sri Iranganti Rangacharya opines, there are Gems and of course
interpolations in 3rd and 4th chapters.

Krishna Mishra and Raghava Bhatta give some more sutras to identify
the Devata Bhakti in addition to what is available in print. That will
be evident if we study them. Are we going to do this?

And hence, it is definitely possible that we might lost some part of
Jaimini Sutras. Without learning this, we can't say Jaimini Sutras are
complete.

Best Regards,
Shanmukha

Tale of a young man

2009-07-02T01:25:00.001-04:00

From: Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr@charter.net>
Date: 2009/7/2
Subject: [vedic-wisdom] Tale of a young man
To: vedic-wisdom@yahoogroups.com

Namaste,

I was reading a small interview by Deepak Chopra on Michael Jackson.
Mr Chopra was talking about how doctors suck people into prescription
medicines and how that ruins some people's lives. That somehow
reminded me of a story.

Sometime back, mother of a young man came to me to show his chart. She
was asking about his studies etc. But the chart was brilliant from the
spiritual point of view. There were many tell-tale combinations. I
declared, "this is not the chart of a materialistic person, but that
of a sannyasi (ascetic/monk)." She broke down into tears and gave me
some background. I found out that he indeed wants to leave material
life and his mother does not want him to.

This boy had been calm, peaceful, contented and an introvert since
childhood. Oneday in his early teenage days, he had an interesting
experience. He was in his room upstairs. His father was teaching math
to some students downstairs. He was hearing all those voices.
Suddenly, he stopped hearing anything. He did not hear or see anything
for a while. His mind was completely blacked out. After a while, his
mind returned to normalcy and he saw and heard everything. But he felt
a tremendous sense of bliss and contentment then. He was overwhelmed
by what he felt then.

He realized that what people pursue as happiness is nothing in front
of what he experienced then. He did not want to study or do anything
anymore. He only wanted to experience that state. His parents became
worried and took him to doctors. Doctors did all kinds of tests on his
brain and found nothing. He was also confined to a mental facility for
one month. They put him on powerful drugs and kept him under
observation. He kept telling the doctors that there was nothing wrong
with him and that they would not understand what he experienced. After
a month, those doctors concluded he was normal and had no problem. The
powerful drugs he received during the month wreaked havoc on him, but
he was not angry or mad at his parents or doctors. He says he
understands his parents love him and hence they did all this. He does
not want to hurt them. He also says he knows what he wants but does
not know how to get it. But he knows that regular studies and regular
material life will not get him what he wants.

When I chatted with him alone, I realized that he is a brilliant young
man with clear thinking. He is certainly not a mad person. He just
needs someone to show him a spiritual path to make something
permanent, which temporarily came to him and left him! To get it
permanently now, he needs to do serious sadhana. His parents also took
him to many so-called swamijis, but he was not satisfied with the
advice given anyone. He started reading Ramana Maharshi and a few
others and liked some of them. But he is still without a clear
direction.

Interestingly, just when I was about to chat with this person after
making his parents leave, my guru Manish called me. He asked me what
was going on. I mentioned that I was about to talk to a teenager who
had a nice chart. He asked for the birthdata, checked it out and
confirmed my feeling that this boy had great spiritual potential.

Unfortunately, the system we have in place looked at him with
suspicion and gave powerful drugs to mess up his mind for one full
month! He is lucky and survived the ordeal. This is a sign of the
times we live in that someone who realizes, albeit momentarily, the
essence of scriptures, is labeled as a mentally disturbed person and
powerful drugs are given to him, instead of clear spiritual direction
to make that realization more permanent.

Links to SJC articles, lessons,etc sorry some may be outdated

2009-06-10T06:06:00.001-04:00

From: Lakshmi Kary <lakshmikary@yahoo.com>
Date: 2008/7/23
Subject: [sohamsa] Links to SJC articles, lessons,etc sorry some may be outdated

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Ramakrishna's analogy on destiny & free will (Re: Horoscope, free will..)

2009-05-29T02:59:00.001-04:00

From: Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr@charter.net>
Date: 2009/5/29

Namaste friends,

> Ramakrishna Paramahamsa compared the results of past actions to be like
> a rope tied around the neck of a goat. Free will is restricted to the
> amount of freedom the rope allows one.

Ramakrishna is a master of explaining the toughest of philosophical points using the simplest of analogies. His analogies are usually quite apt and brilliant.

Yes, karma or destiny (i.e. the result of past actions) is like a rope tied to the neck of a goat. The rope restricts the movement of the goat, but does not determine where the goat goes and what it does! That is upto the goat's free will.

A thirsty goat may look at a river nearby and despair as it cannot reach the river due to the rope. It may try and struggle continually, without reaching the river. Another thirsty goat may realize that it cannot reach the river, accept that, look around, find a small bucket of water behind it within reach if it negotiates with the rope and the obstacles. It may turn back, go, drink that water in the bucket and be happy.

While the destiny as frozen at the time of birth (and as reflected in the horoscope) is like the rope tying the goat and the surroundings of the goat, the actions of free will after birth are like the actions of the goat - how it accepts and negotiates the rope and its surroundings to get what it wants.

* * *

Today's actions (karma) are tomorrow's destiny (karma). Some of today's actions may impact destiny in a future life. Some of today's actions may modify destiny for tomorrow (in this life itself!). Let me extend Ramakrishna's analogy to explain it.

A goat tied to a tree with a rope may go around the tree a few times in one direction and the rope may get shorter. It may now be unable to reach places it was able to reach earlier. Similarly, some bad acts of free will in this life may tighten the destiny, make things worse and reduce one's options.

It may go around the tree a few times in another direction and the rope may get longer. It may now be able to reach places it was unable to reach earlier. Similarly, some good acts of free will in this life may improve the destiny and make more things possible.

* * *

One's mind is conditioned based on one's destiny. One's surroundings and life situations faced by one are influenced by one's destinty. One will be pulled in certain directions. One may feel attraction for another person. Another person may hate one an, abuse one and throw obstacles. One may not have enough money to live happily. One may be adored by millions of people. And so on. One faces different life situations at different times and in different matters.

However, destiny only shows how one (and one's mind) is pulled in various directions and what life situations one finds oneself in. Irrespective of the mental conditioning and one's circumstances, one can still choose between different actions. The actions taken by one are not fixed based on the horoscope. For example, one person may abuse one badly and one may feel great anger towards that person, all on account of a previous karmik debt. But, when badly provoked, one can either succumb to the temptation and fight back or just ignore and move on.

Destiny places you in different situations. What you do in those situations is based on how you use your free will. In some cases, free will has a lot of wiggle room and many options and, in some cases, it has fewer options. But, usually, you do have several options that may or may not be obvious and the action you finally choose shapes your destiny in a future birth.

* * *

Please note that the Sanskrit word for destiny is karma and the Sanskrit word for action is also karma. Basically, actions of today become destiny of tomorrow. You will get reaction in future to your current actions and destiny is the sum total of those actions that will come back to you.

Each action of yours that impacts other beings and objects of this universe will go towards forming your destiny for future. (Here please note that both physical and mental actions count. Any emotions you feel towards someone else and do not necessary express outwardly will also impact that person in a subtle manner and hence counts as an action.)

Horoscope captures the good and bad actions, committed physically or mentally to other beings, until the current birth, which are to give their reactions in this life. This is also known as destiny.

It does not fix what you do in various situations in your current life. You have the ability to make different choices at important crossroads. The choices you make are your karma (actions) and they shape your destiny for future. They may either impact your current life itself, or become part of the destiny (as reflected in the horoscope) in the next life.

* * *

Anybody who tells you that so and so houses show acts of free will does not understand what free will is. Horoscope is the frozen list of past karmas that form one's destiny for this life. It is like the rope tying the goat. Acts of free will are like how the goat negotiates the rope and moves around within the possible area to do its stuff. That is in the hands of the goat.

The scope and options available to free will can be estimated from the horoscope, but the exact acts of free will are unpredictable based on horoscope. To complicate things further, how exactly free will has been used until now in this life (which cannot be seen from the horoscope) has an impact on the scope and options available to free will at this time. The exertion of free will until now may have modified the destiny.

* * *

I am not downplaying astrology. Going back to the original Chiranjeevi prediction, the prediction that he would come into politics in 2007-2009 and enjoy some kind of power was made using astrology. When someone is already a candidate, even a random prediction of success or failure has a 1/2 or 1/3 probability. But, when there are no signs on the ground, a prediction on one's political entry in a specific timeframe has a very low probability. Such a low probability prediction made 7 years ahead using astrology came true. Moreover, we have all seen many cases where astrology worked spectacularly. I am not saying astrology is nonsense. But I am saying that we do not attempt to understand its shortcomings.

When someone's free will works in a predictable way, i.e. when one's free will has very few options and/or one reacts to life situations thrown up by the destiny in predictable ways, job of an astrologer is easier. But, when free will has a wide range of options and/or one used the free will powerfully, the gap between the destiny as reflected by horoscope and the actual destiny as a result of those actions may make an astrologer fail.

> --- On Wed, 5/27/09, Shyam V. Srivatsa <shyam.srivatsa@...> wrote:
>
> From: Shyam V. Srivatsa <shyam.srivatsa@...>
> Subject: Re: [sohamsa] Re: Horoscope, free will and high profile charts (Re: Your prediction on Chiranjeevi)
> To: sohamsa@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 11:08 AM
>
> Namaste!
>
> Ramakrishna Paramahamsa compared the results of past actions to be like
> a rope tied around the neck of a goat. Free will is restricted to the
> amount of freedom the rope allows one. As one burns more of past karma,
> it is like the rope being loosened and the freedom given increases.
> Ultimately we are all bound by the power of prakriti or maya as one
> chooses to call it.
>
> In psychological terms, ones own thought structures are the rope that
> ties us. Our own conditioned mind restricts us. What a horoscope reveals
> in this sense is often the ropes that bind us. The grace of Guru and the
> power of sadhana burn away these ropes/sanchita karma.
>
> Regards,
>
> Shyam
>
> On Wed, 2009-05-27 at 13:38 +0530, Sanjay Prabhakaran wrote:
> >
> > || Om Gurave Namah ||
> > Dear Srinivasa,
> > Let me give my opinion,
> > Upachaaya houses 3,6,10 and 11 are for free will. Upachaaya means to
> > increase or grow. These houses can increase your level of karma. Most
> > of the houses are considered bad (except 10th) by Parashara. Hence we
> > should try to limit our free will for loading our karma baggage.
> >
> > 3rd House : Kaama or passion related karmas.
> > 11th house: Desire or Wants related karmas.
> > 6th house: Hatred, revenge etc.
> >
> > All the above are one of prime causes of increasing karma. Look at the
> > grahas in above places to see how many factors are forcing you to
> > indulge in those karmas. Malefics generally add more negative karma.
> >
> > 3rd house remedy is best to take Guru Upadesha (7th from 3rd is 9th
> > house).
> > 11th house worship Shiva
> > 6th House worship Vishnu.
> >
> > Warm Regards
> > Sanjay P
>
> --- In sohamsa@yahoogroups.com, Srinivasa Sunchu <padmanu@> wrote:
> >
> > Om Vishnave Namah
> >
> > Namasthe Narasimha Garu
> >
> > Is there a way or techniques to quantitatively and accurately ascertain how much is the
> > destiny/baggage part and the free will part.
> > May be this is where modern day astrologers are lagging?
> >
> > Srinivasa
> >
> > --- On Tue, 5/26/09, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr@> wrote:
> > Namaste,
> >
> > > > how do we know that free will exists?.The so called free will can also
> > > > be an asumption.As far as my experience goes whatever freewill existed
> > > > for humans might have exited.I know majority will never agree but
> > > > still......
> >
> > Well, free will DOES exist. In fact, what exactly is destiny anyway? There is no destiny if there is no free will, for today's act of free will shapes tomorrow's destiny.
> >
> > In fact, Vasishtha tells Rama in "Yoga Vaasishtham" that there is nothing called destiny. He says all that is there is your free will. He says that actions done in the past using your free will will catch up with you and that catching up is given the name of destiny. This destiny is thus nothing external, but acts of your own free will getting back at you.
> >
> > Just as a person who spends all his monthly salary in the first 10 days of the month may have no money to spend in the next 20 days, similarly people who abused their free will in the past may be faced with such a weighty destiny that their free will is useless right now. Such people may feel that there is nothing called free will.
> >
> > The amount of leeway and wiggle room available for free may may vary from person to person and situation to situation, but it is a fact that free will exists and that acts of free will shape one's future.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Narasimha
> >
> > > --- In JyotishGroup@ yahoogroups. com, "gopi_b927" <gopi_b927@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Narasimha garu,
> > > >
> > > > how do we know that free will exists?.The so called free will can also
> > > > be an asumption.As far as my experience goes whatever freewill existed
> > > > for humans might have exited.I know majority will never agree but
> > > > still......
> > > > --- In JyotishGroup@ yahoogroups. com, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Namaste,
> > > > >
> > > > > I will share some freewheeling thoughts, in response to your question.
> > > > I am cc'ing this to some astrology lists after removing your name from
> > > > the mail.
> > > > >
> > > > > * * *
> > > > >
> > > > > For those who are unaware of the prediction referred to below, here is
> > > > a little background.
> > > > >
> > > > > I had predicted in print in 2000 that Telugu film actor Chiranjeevi
> > > > would come into politics in 2007-2009 and and enjoy some political
> > > > power. At the time of that prediction, there were no such indications on
> > > > the ground. But he did come into politics in the same timeframe. The
> > > > initial talk was in 2007, he finally formed a party in 2008 and
> > > > elections were in 2009. Though his party did badly, he was elected as a
> > > > legislator (MLA) in May 2009.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thus, the original prediction was quite successful. However, I upped
> > > > the ante last year by suggesting that Chiranjeevi' s party would do well
> > > > in 2009 elections. Though I was not specific regarding his level of
> > > > success and did not predict that he would become the Chief Minister, I
> > > > was honestly expecting his party to do better than they managed. Thus,
> > > > the followup of my original prediction is a failure.
> > > > >
> > > > > * * *
> > > > >
> > > > > It is my personal observation that the success rate in high profile
> > > > political predictions is less than in regular predictions like marriage,
> > > > job, childbirth etc in "regular" charts.
> > > > >
> > > > > In some cases, the reason is that the birthdata is not accurate and
> > > > yet we are eager to make predictions. But sometimes we make bad
> > > > predictions with good data too. Of course, it can be a human error in
> > > > judging various factors. However, that human error seems to be a little
> > > > more common in high profile political predictions than in regular
> > > > predictions. What could be the reason?
> > > > >
> > > > > I wonder if the factor of free will that is left out of astrology
> > > > plays a bigger role in political charts. I will try to think loud and
> > > > elaborate what I mean.
> > > > >
> > > > > * * *
> > > > >
> > > > > One's birth chart contains the list of actions committed in previous
> > > > lives using one's free will that are to give their reactions in this
> > > > life. However, as life goes on, one accumulates newer actions committed
> > > > in THIS life using one's free will. What happens at any point of time in
> > > > one's life is a function of ALL actions committed by one until that
> > > > point of time, INCLUDING the actions committed in THIS life until now.
> > > > Some key actions committed using one's free will in THIS life,
> > > > especially at important crossroads in life, should impact the life
> > > > events from then onwards.
> > > > >
> > > > > Many people are weighed down by too many karmas and always playing a
> > > > catchup. In other words, destiny (sum of the actions of previous lives
> > > > which are to give a reaction now) is too weighty and free will in this
> > > > life has little scope. When the options available for the free will in
> > > > this life are limited, there may not be significant actions using free
> > > > will and hence the modifications to destiny based on actions of this
> > > > life may not be big enough. Thus, horoscope may be sufficient to predict
> > > > events.
> > > > >
> > > > > However, highly popular, successful and high profile public
> > > > personalities may have less restrictions and more options available for
> > > > their free will. With their free will being more free and powerful, the
> > > > actions committed by their free will may have a higher weightage. As we
> > > > are able to see only their destiny in the horoscope (free will exercise
> > > > upto birth) and unable to factor in how free will was exercised in this
> > > > life until now, we are perhaps handicapped in our predictions.
> > > > >
> > > > > Whether a political leader is in limelight and becomes MP or the
> > > > leader of opposition in parliament or the Prime Minister, he is enjoying
> > > > some political power. Previous karmas placed him in a position to enjoy
> > > > that power. To predict the specific degree of power and make an accurate
> > > > prediction, is the horoscope sufficient always? Could the exercise of
> > > > free will in this life until now make a difference in some high profile
> > > > charts?
> > > > >
> > > > > * * *
> > > > >
> > > > > I am just thinking loud here. Rather than posing a question and
> > > > answering it myself, I will let learned friends ponder on this for
> > > > themselves.. .
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > Narasimha
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > Dear PVR garu,
> > > > >
> > > > > Namaste.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you don't mind, could you please look in to why your prediction on
> > > > Chiranjeevi failed ?
> > > > >
> > > > > I am not asking this question with a wrong intent. I wanted to
> > > > understand if
> > > > > 1) It is a human error (May be you ignored some data ? )
> > > > > 2) You still can't understand why it failed and you think that was the
> > > > correct prediction to be best of your knowledge.
> > > > >
> > > > > I had a 50-50 faith on astrology 3 years ago and after coming to know
> > > > about you / your lessons I developed strong faith and I thought all the
> > > > failures are not because of astrology but because of astrologer's lack
> > > > of knowledge.
> > > > >
> > > > > If it is case #1, it is okay. But if it is case #2, then we have a
> > > > problem. We will have to conclude that the Jyotish knowledge that is
> > > > available to us at this age is very limited and may not be accurate.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > <deleted>

Boston Classes [PV Narasimha Rao ji] are continuing on

2009-05-20T02:12:00.001-04:00

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Shrikanth Gopalan <vgshrikanth@hotmail.com>
Date: 2009/5/19
Subject: [vedic-astrology] Re: Boston Classes [PV Narasimha Rao ji] are continuing on
To: vedic-astrology@yahoogroups.com

Dear Pavan,

PVRji Boston classes are still continuing and they are uploading the MP3s to this website.

http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net/

I would recommend you bookmark this website as this will softlink you to the actual storage website.

The latest session recorded and uploaded is as of May 04, 2009 - Lesson 146.

With Best Wishes
Shrikanth

--- In vedic-astrology@yahoogroups.com, Ambuj Agrawal <nerd.jumbo@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Pavan,
>
> I'm also seeking answer for the same.
> Did you ask PVRji about it? Or did you get an answer from any other source?
>
> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Pawan <astro_vedic69@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Dear Group,
> >
> > From past few months there is no audio updates from PV Narasimha Rao ji's
> > classes in boston. Are classes stopped or is there any delay in uploading
> > audio classes?
> >
> > I hope this gurupurnima , students of PVNR will release 3rd book .
> >
> > Kindly update the group status, we are awaiting for more audios.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Pavan
> >

|| Om ||

|| Om Sree Maha Ganaadhipataye Namah ||

|| Hare Raama Krishna ||

Greater Boston Jyotisha Classes

P.V.R. Narasimha Rao, Sri Jagannath Centre

Free Vedic astrology classes are held on every MONDAY Evening from 6:30 pm to 8:30 pm, at Sadhu Vaswani Center, 1827 Bridge Street Dracut, MA.

These classes are taught by P.V.R. Narasimha Rao, Jyotish Guru at Sri Jagannath Centre.

Directions to the venue of the classes can be found at the bottom of this page. In case you have problems when coming in, please try calling 508-963-6273 for help. If you want to attend the classes and want to receive mails related to the class (e.g. handouts, schedule changes etc), please send an email to pvr@charter.net indicating your interest.

The audio is in mp3 compressed format. We have uploaded each class audioin several parts easy download. Each part in general corresponds to approximately each hour of the 2 hr class and is about 6.5 MB. Exact size is mentioned against them for some of them. To save them on your computer, right click on any of these links and select Save Target As ..

Audio Lessons 1-77 and other Conference recordings can be downloaded/ordered HERE

The weekly class homework and other discussions are at "sjcBoston" yahoogroup.

	Audio	Topics Covered
lesson 146	04May2009: part-2 (7.51 MB)	part-1: Unable to record due to some technical issues(9th lord in houses 1-7) part-2: Example Chart
lesson 145	27Apr2009: part-1 (3.57 MB) part-2 (4.34 MB)	part-1: BPHS - Effects of 8th lord in houses 7-12 part-2: Example Charts(Dwadasamsa(D-12)Analysis , Marriage Timing )
lesson 144	06Apr2009: part-1 (5.00 MB)	part-1: Lunar New Year Chart
lesson 143	23Feb2009: part-1 (3.80 MB) part-2 (4.34 MB)	part-1: BPHS - Effects of 8th lord in houses 1-6 part-2: Example Chart(Career Analysis)
lesson 142	26Jan2009: part-1 (4.58 MB) part-2 (5.64 MB)	part-1: BPHS - Effects of 7th lord in houses 7-12 part-2: Example Chart(Marriage Longevity Illustration)
lesson 141	12Jan2009: part-1 (4.84 MB) part-2 (6.68 MB)	part-1: BPHS - Effects of 7th lord in houses 1-6 part-2: Example Chart(Narayana Dasa & Kala-Chakra Interpretation)
lesson 140	05Jan2009: part-1 (6.27 MB) part-2 (3.69 MB)	part-1: BPHS - Chapter 24 - Effects of 6th lord in houses 7-12 part-2: Example Chart(Divorce Issue)
lesson 139	17Nov2008: part-1 (9.64 MB)	BPHS - Chapter 24 - Effects of 6th lord in houses 1-6
lesson 138	10Nov2008: part-1 (11.9 MB)	BPHS - Chapter 24 - Effects of 5rd lord in houses 7-12 & Choosing a muhurtha for thread ceremony.
lesson 137	03Nov2008: part-1 (2.2 MB) part-2 (3.12 MB)	BPHS - Chapter 24 - Effects of 5th lord in houses 1-6
lesson 136	27Oct2008: part-1 (6.8 MB) part-2 (0.5 MB) part-3 (4.0 MB)	part-1: BPHS - Chapter 24 - Effects of 4th lord in houses 7-12 part-2,3: Student Example
lesson 135	20Oct2008: part-1 (5.62 MB) part-2 (2.30 MB)	Part-1: BPHS - Chapter 24 - Effects of 4th lord in various houses; Part-2: Example Chart (Navamsa analysis)
lesson 134	22Sep2008: part-1 (4.76 MB)	BPHS - Chapter 24 - Effects of 3rd lord in various houses.
lesson 133	15Sep2008: part-1 (6.04 MB) part-2 (4.78 MB)	Part-1: BPHS - Chapter 24 - Effects of 3rd lord in various houses; Part-2: Example Chart (Chart rectification & D10 analysis)
lesson 132	08Sept2008: Part-1 (8.57MB)	BPHS - Chapter 24 - Effects of 2nd lord in various houses (Slokas 19 & 20 didn't get recorded) & Drig dasa example;
lesson 131	04Aug2008: part-1 (5.58 MB) part-2 (4.13 MB)	Part-1: BPHS - Chapter 24 - Effects of 2nd lord in various houses; Part-2: Example - D10 - Chart Analysis
lesson 130	21Jul2008: part-1 (5.04 MB) part-2 (5.74 MB)	BPHS - Chap 24 cont. - Effects of LL in each house; Part-2: Example-D24 Analysis
lesson 129	14Jul2008: part-1 (6.8 MB) part-2 (5.0 MB)	BPHS - Chap 24 - Effects of LL in each house; Part-2: Example-Health Issue
lesson 128	07Jul2008: part-1 (7.4 MB) part-2 (4.5 MB)	Example charts: part-1 - Autism, part-2 - Health Issues
lesson 127	30Jun2008: part-1 (9.7 MB)	BPHS - Effects of 12H
lesson 126	31Mar2008: part-1 (7.2 MB)	Example charts
lesson 125	24Mar2008: part-1 (6.3 MB) part-2 (8.7 MB)	Same earlier Exaample continued .. Mainly general + Career
lesson 124	17Mar2008: part-1 (7.4 MB) part-2 (6 MB)	Examples - Mainly Career
lesson 123	03Mar2008: part-1 (5.1 MB)	BPHS - Effects of 11H
lesson 122	11Feb2008: part-1 (5.2 MB)	BPHS - Effects of 10H
lesson 121	28Jan2008: part-1 (9.5 MB)	BPHS - Effects of 9H cont....
lesson 120	07Jan2008: part-1 (6.5 MB) part-2 (5.4 MB)	BPHS - chap 20 - Effects of 9H, Marriage Compatibility Check discussion
lesson 119	11Dec2007: part-1 (8.4 MB) part-2 (3.9 MB)	BPHS - chap 19 - Effects of 8H, Longevity Examples
lesson 118	29Nov2007: part-1 (12.0 MB)	Example - child chart Analysis
lesson 117	05Nov2007: part-1 (8.7 MB) part-2 (4.7 MB)	part1: Example Analysis Dasamsa (chart1), Marriage Timing Reading (chart2), part 2: Dasamsa Analysis (chart3)
lesson 116	29Oct2007: part-1 (6.9 MB) part-2 (4.9 MB)	Clarification of Doubts from class students
lesson 115	22Oct2007: part-1 (4.6 MB) part-2 (4.0 MB)	Example Analysis - Drig Dasa examples (class students+)
lesson 114	24Sep2007: part-1 (6.5 MB) part-2 (3.3 MB)	Example Analysis - Drig Dasa examples (class students+)
lesson 113	09Sep2007: part-1 (6.0 MB) part-2 (7.3 MB)	part1: Example Analysis - Real estate (chart1), drig dasa (chart2) part 2: general doubts, drig dasa exapmple
lesson 112	16Jul2007: part-1 (8.0 MB) part-2 (5.2 MB)	BPHS - chap 18 - Effects of 7H Example Analysis - career partnerships
lessons 110-111	-	Did not record due to audio problems. The classes contained examples only
lesson 109	xxMay2007: part-1 (4.1 MB)	BPHS - chap 17 - Effects of 6H, slokas 13+; part2 - example chart. Audio did not recorded due to audio issues
lesson 108	xxMay2007: part-1 (5.1 MB) part-2 (6.5 MB)	BPHS - chap 17 - Effects of 6H, slokas 1-12; Example Analysis
lesson 107	23Apr2007: part-1 (4.7 MB) part-2 (8.8 MB)	BPHS - chap 16 - Effects of 5H, slokas 1-12; Example Analysis - chart of an Sadhaka
lesson 106	16Apr2007: part-1 (6.1 MB) part-2 (5.2 MB)	BPHS - chap 16 - Effects of 5H, slokas 1-12; Example Analysis - Marriage problem
lesson 105	09Apr2007: part-1 (9.5)	BPHS - chap 15 - Effects of 4H, sloka 9+; Discussion on yearly panchanga sravanam. (Only part 1 is held today)
lesson 104	02Apr2007: part-1 (5.5 MB) part-2 (6.9 MB)	BPHS - chap 15 - Effects of 4H, sloka 1-9; Example Job related move [There is audio disturbance from 30-46 mins of part 2]
lesson 103	26Mar2007: part-1 (4.9 MB)	BPHS - chap 14 - Effects of 3H (Only part 1 is held today)
lesson 102	12Mar2007: part-1 (7.0 MB)	BPHS - chap 13 - Effects of 2H; Part2 is not recorded due to Tech difficulties
lesson 101	05Mar2007: part-1 (7.3 MB) part-2 (5.8 MB)	BPHS - chap 12 - Effects of 1H;Example Analysis ( Some audio disturbance)
lesson 100	29Jan2007: part-1 (7.1 MB)	BPHS - (Only part 1 is held today)
lesson 99	22Jan2007: part-1 (6.2 MB) part-2 (5.6 MB)	BPHS - chap
lesson 98	08Jan2007: part-1 (5.9 MB) part-2 (5.8 MB)	BPHS - Chapter 9 - Santhanam's version, Q & A, Example
lesson 97	18Dec2006: part-1 (5.9 MB) part-2 (5.8 MB)	BPHS - Chapter 9 - Santhanam's version, Q & A
lesson 96	11Dec2006: part-1 (2.3 MB) part-2 (3.1 MB) part-3 (7.4 MB)	BPHS - Chap 96 and part of Chap 1 - Santhanam's version, and Q & A
lesson 95	27Nov2006: part-1 (6.9 MB) part-2 (3.4 MB)	BPHS - Chapter 95 - Santhanam's version and Q & A
lesson 94	13Nov2006: part-1 (6.5 MB) part-2 (5.3 MB)	Q & A, BPHS - Chapter 94 - Santhanam's version
lesson 93	06Nov2006: part-1 (6.9 MB) part-2 (5.5 MB)	BPHS - Chapter 93- Santhanam's version, Example Discussion
lesson 92	30Oct2006: part-1 (4.1 MB) part-2 (9.1 MB)	BPHS - Types & Remedies on Gandaanta dosham, Example Discussion
lesson 91	23Oct2006: part-1 (8.3 MB) part-2 (3.1 MB)	Q& A, Example Discussion
lesson 90	16Oct2006: part-1 (7.0 MB) part-2 (5.0 MB)	Q& A, Example Discussion
lesson 89	09Oct2006: part-1 (7.0 MB) part-2 (5.0 MB)	Details on Avastha, Example Discussion
lesson 88	24Sep2006: part-1 (5.8 MB)	part1: General Q & A. part2 (BPHS - chapter on Remedies for birth in eclipses, chart analysis) did not get recorded
lesson 87	3Sep2006: part-1 (8.6 MB) part-2 (7.1 MB)	BPHS - chapter on Remedies on Sankranti dosha, Chart Analysis
lesson 86	27Aug2006: part-1 (8.8 MB) part-2 (7.1 MB)	BPHS - chapter on Remedies for Bhadra, inauspicious yoga and nakshatra births, Chart Analysis
lesson 85	23Jul2006: part-1 (8.3 MB) part-2 (5.1 MB)	BPHS - chapter on Amavasya/Krishna Chaturdasi Births, Chart Analysis
lesson 84	16Jul2006: part-1 (6.4 MB) part-2 (5.3 MB)	BPHS - chapter on Inauspicious Births, Chart Anaysis (Few minutes of part-2 at the end is lost)
lesson 83	09Jul2006: part-1 ( 8.1 MB) part-2 (6.2 MB)	BPHS Interpretation - Argala, Examples, Chart Analysis
lesson 82	02Jul2006: part-1 ( 5.9 MB) part-2 (5.7 MB)	Continuation of Jaimini Sutras
lesson 81	25Jun2006: part-1 ( 6.5 MB) part-2 (5.6 MB)	Continuation of Jaimini Sutras
lesson 80	18Jun2006: part-1 ( 8.2 MB) part-2 (5.8 MB)	Continuation of Jaimini Sutras
lesson 79	11Jun2006: part-1 ( 6.0 MB) part-2 (6.1 MB)	Revision of Jaimini Sutras
lesson 78	04Jun2006: part-1 ( 7.5 MB) part-2 (10.3 MB)	Example - job and Financial analysis (audio quality has an issue)

Directions to Sadhu Vaswani Center

From Rt 128 N / 95 N
Take Exit 32 A for Rt 3N, Take exit 30 on Rt 3N for Rt 495 N, On 495 N take exit 38 for Rt 38 N (take Right at the ramp), Travel for about 5 to 6 miles on 38 N through Lowell go over the river and go around the Rotary and follow 38N, Take right on to Bridge Street at the traffic light (Dunkin Donuts will be on the corner on the right), pass sign "Entering Dracut" and go straight through set of lights (you will see Wendy's on the right), Go for one mile pass Dunkin Donuts on the right, Go for about 300 Ft further and turn Right into drive way at the blue sign board (be careful after Dunkin Donuts - the building is very near As the center is very near).

From 128 S / 95 S
Take exit for Rt 3N and follow the above directions.

This site is maintained by PVR's students.

If you have any comments, please send e-mail to mailto:vedicastro@comcast.net Thank you.
Last revised: 11/08/2008 .

Special Tithi Ashtottari Dasa with TP Charts

2009-04-09T01:36:00.001-04:00

From: Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr@charter.net>
Date: 2009/4/9
Subject: [vedic-astrology] Special Tithi Ashtottari Dasa with TP Charts
To: vedic-astrology@yahoogroups.com, JyotishGroup@yahoogroups.com, sohamsa@yahoogroups.com
Cc: pvr@charter.net

Namaste friends,

Tithi Pravesha (TP) is a technique from tradition that was revealed by Pt Sanjay Rath about a decade back. Tithi Ashtottari (TA dasa) dasa is supposed to go with TP charts.

Conscientious astrologers will acknowledge that no technique works 100% and we are sometimes stumped by a case where things make very little sense. Such cases make one wonder if there is a missing link.

* * *

It was during such a moment that an idea came to me regarding Tithi Ashtottari dasa. Why not use special tithis (e.g. putra tithi for children and dara tithi for marriage) to initiate TA dasa?! Why should only janma tithi be used always?

When I tried it on examples, I saw that it was working better than conventional TA dasa. In cases where I was happy earlier, I am equally happy or happier now. More importantly, some cases that baffled me earlier made sense now. I concluded that TA dasa based on special tithis is very much valid and useful.

I want to explain my finding with a couple of examples.

Just as with my other researches presented recently, please note that I am only marrying two pre-existing concepts that are related. This is merely a simple logical extension that takes knowledge just one step further.

Please use my finding if it makes sense to you and you find it useful. Otherwise, just ignore it.

* * *

Sun-Moon longitude differential is multiplied by various factors when finding special tithis (e.g. 5 in putra tithi and 7 in dara tithi). In the "basics" view of Jagannatha Hora, one can click "Special Tithis" in the pop-up menu in the basic longitude window to see 12 special tithis.

To initiate Tithi Ashtottari dasa from a special tithi instead of janma tithi, please click the "Options" button when displaying Tithi Ashtottari dasa. In the first combobox of the dialog box, select the tithi you want to use as the seed for initiating TA dasa. The default is "janma tithi (1st)".

* * *

Example 1:

Take a native born on 1970 October 5 at 12:34 pm (IST) at 80e21, 15n49. He had a childbirth on 2000 September 28. Look at the annual TP chart of 1999-2000. It is cast on 1999 October 14 at 1:42:12 PM (IST). At the time of childbirth, Jupiter-Moon antardasa was running as per regular TA dasa.

The 5th lord of rasi chart, Venus, is in moolatrikona in Li lagna in D-7. The 5th co-lord of D-7, Rahu, is in 7th and aspects lagna lord Venus in lagna. This gives a raja yoga in D-7 between 1st and 5th lords. The 9th lord Mercury is in 5th. Thus, there ARE indications of childbirth in the TP chart. But, why Jupiter-Moon antardasa?? Jupiter is in 4th in rasi and is the 3rd/6th lord in 8th in D-7. Moon is in 12th in D-7. We can explain it saying Jupiter is the ruler of the year, but it is not very convincing. Vimsottari dasa makes more sense in this case, as Mercury-Venus antardasa gave the result.

Now, switch from regular TA dasa to TA dasa based on putra tithi. Let me call it TA5 dasa. As per TA5 dasa, Rahu-Mercury antardasa gave the child. Rahu is the 5th lord involved in a raja yoga with lagna lord, while Mercury is the 9th lord in 5th. Makes a lot more sense!

Example 2:

Take a native born on 1973 July 26 at 9:49 pm (IST)at 80e28, 16n13. She got married in the 4th week of 1999 January (an arranged marriage). Look at the annual TP chart of 1998-99. It is cast on 1998 July 20 at 9:53:52 am (IST). Venus dasa was running at the time of wedding, as per regular TA dasa. Venus is the 5th and 10th lord in 12th. He does not show marriage that well.

If you take take the TA7 dasa (TA dasa based on dara tithi/7th), marriage occurred in Moon dasa. In rasi chart, Moon is exalted in 9th and aspects vivaha sahama. In navamsa chart, Moon is in own in the 7th house. He can certainly give marriage.

Example 3:

Take Sri Umakant Rath, born on 1934 November 12 at 6:18 pm (IST), Cuttack, India (85e50, 20n30). He got married on 1961 February 23. Look at the annual TP chart of 1960-61. It is cast on 1960 October 25 at 11:43:26 pm (IST). He got married in Mercury-Saturn antardasa as per regular TA dasa.

In the navamsa, 5th lord Jupiter, a functional benefic, is in 7th in Taurus. He is the 9th lord joining lagna lord and 7th lord in rasi. The 7th lord of navamsa, Venus, is in moolatrikona in navamsa. These factors can support marriage in the year.

But why Mercury dasa? Mercury is in the 9th house in navamsa, but he is the 8th lord and a functional malefic in navamsa (rasi too). He is not a great candidate for giving marriage. Given that he is the ruler of the year, we can explain it. But it would have been tough to predict.

Using TA7 dasa, marriage occurred in Jupiter-Venus antardasa. Jupiter is a functional benefic in 7th and Venus is a strong 7th lord.

Example 4:

Take Pt Sanjay Rath, born on 1963 August 7 at 9:15 pm (IST), Sambalpur, India (83e58, 21n27). He had a childbirth on 1992 December 21. Look at the annual TP chart of 1992-93. It is case on 1992 August 16 at 7:41:21 am (IST). At the time of childbirth, Jupiter-Moon antardasa was running as per regular TA dasa.

In D-7, lagna lord Saturn and 9th lord (and yogakaraka) Venus join in a quadrant. Their dispositor Mars joins the 5th lord Mercury. These raja yogas in D-7 can show a childbirth in the year.

But why Jupiter-Moon antardasa? In D-7, Jupiter is the 2nd and 11th lord debilitated in 12th, while Moon is the 6th lord in 7th. Childbirth in this period does not make much sense.

Using TA5 dasa instead, childbirth occurred in Venus-Saturn antardasa. These are the two planets giving a raja yoga in D-7. They are also in a trine from 5th lord. It makes much more sense.

Example 5:

Pt Sanjay Rath (see example 4 for birthdata) joined the Government of India in July 1991 as a civil servant. Let us take the annual TP chart of 1990-91. It is cast on 1990 August 9 at 4:34:53 am (IST). Moon dasa was running when he joined job.

In the D-10 chart, 5th lord Venus is exalted in D-10 and that can show joing a good job. So success in IAS and joining government makes sense.

But why Moon dasa? In rasi, Moon is lagna lord in 8th. In D-10, Moon is the 2nd lord in 4th. Though he aspects 10th, he is a very weak candidate to give job.

Using TA10 dasa (TA dasa started from karma tithi/10th), Venus dasa was running then. Being the 5th lord exalted in 10th, Venus dasa makes perfect sense.

* * *

If the knowledge I shared above makes sense and seems useful, please feel free to use it and share it with others. If not, just ignore it.

I am not reading any astrology yahoogroups these days. If you reply to this mail and think that it is important for me to see the reply, please cc it to my personal address.

Best regards,
Narasimha
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What Jyotish the program considers more precisely?

2009-03-25T05:05:00.001-04:00

From: Sabine Stetson <stetsa@mac.com>
Date: 2009/3/25
Subject: [vedic-astrology] Re: What Jyotish the program considers more precisely?
To: vedic-astrology@yahoogroups.com

Namaste,

I am using Das Goravani's astrology program for many years. I asked
him about the precision of astrology computer programs,
as discussed in the forum, here is what he wrote and he would like me
to share his answer with all of you:

My dear Jyotish friends,

Hi, Das Goravani here. Author of Goravani Jyotish. I wish to
address briefly the discussion regarding softwares.

The question was accuracy, I believe. To that end let me say the
following:

I entered this field assuming that the calculational part of
astrology was already nailed down fully. I researched and found that
to be the case. In other words, the astronomy portion of it was
already settled. In fact, anyone can get ahold of the complete code
for Jyotish. It takes a little effort, there is no one stop shop for
it, but it can be gathered, as I did it, so I know.

The main planetary algorithms used these days by most or all of the
programs is the code that comes from NASA, the American Space
program, as they do share their planetary code freely. Haven taken
this code, it has been then reworked by many in the field, and resold
by them individually as THEIR Planetary code. In fact, planetary
code is a complex mathematical encyclopedia, and is really locked
down, with occasional tweaks coming out of observations.

OK, then, it gets to you via a programmer who packages it into a
useable Jyotish package by adding the Hindu calculations themselves,
on top of the planetary code.

There are two parts that are questionable to some degree, and that is
the lagna and ayanamsa. Those are harder, and stranger, due to the
shape of the earth, and the latitude issue and how that affects the
tilt of the birth against the zodiac. People born in the North or
far South (more rare by far), are "slanted" to the zodiac at birth.
That's a real issue nobody talks about.

The major programs all calculate close to each other. Why not
exact? Because of the life course of the code each of us has in our
hands. Mine came from a certain source, and was in basic at the
time. It was remade into C for me. My ascendent calc I did myself
from a known source book. My ayanamsa code I got from logic (for
straight line) and from a source for the type that tapes the wobble
into account, not just the tilt, of the earth.

The major programs all calculate closely.

Nobody present is capable of telling you which is more accurate in
terms of calculations.

The only person(s) who could tell you which is more accurate in terms
of planetary longitude on the zodiac is someone who is a genuine
highly educated and accurate in that area of knowledge FOR SURE RIGHT
NOW and that would be a live ASTRONOMER. No astrologer can speak to
that.

Next, in terms of ayanamsa and ascendent, to really discuss that, you
would again need an ASTRONOMER. They hate astrologers, generally.

As for the Hindu calculations in our programs, those are so fixed,
there should be little variation, except in Shad Bala and a few other
areas where interpretation of classical texts comes into play moreso,
and there are some variations of that interpretation. NONE of the
current lot of us programmers are ALSO Sanskrit scholars, so, we rely
on the translations that come at us from BV Raman and others, who
themselves are not perhaps either, the full scholar.

I really wish to urge everyone to admit who/where they are in the
knowledge of exactness when we do raise issues of exactness.

At this point, the programs simply are different, slightly, in
minutes and seconds of arc on the Lagna, planets, ayanamsas, because
of the little things that happen to code as it goes through it's
language journey. You know, the handling of fine decimal numbers,
there are issues there, that cause computers and languages to
calculate slightly differently. Math, with floating point numbers,
is not quite as fixed as we would like. There have been chips in
computers that did things wrong, and languages round differently.

By and by, slowly over time, and this has happened in the base of
this field, in the core codes in these programs, that things get
shifted ever so slightly, and so, over time, this occurs. Another
way to put it is that some core codes have suffered more in their
lifetimes than others, become more rounded off, and it shows up as
minutes and second of arc difference.

I do not think any of the current lot of programmers actually has a
telescope or actually knows astro physics to any degree, astronomy,
etc. Mostly we are entreprenuers who love Hindu/Vedic stuff, got the
code from the astronomy to astrology group that preceded us, put it
into a program, struggle to keep it going, and I don't think any of
us are rich either. PL had a huge cash rich partner in India for
awhile, but that's over from what I heard though it advanced that
program by leaps during that period. Money does that. I passed on
the guy, he came to me first, due to dharmic reasons surrounding the
use of gems.

I think you're barking up the wrong tree. I smell "investing" when I
here "accuracy" to a great degree, and I have to say, what is fixed
is, and you will win or not, so keep going, in your karma, because
there are so many things you cannot control, just add this to the
pile, because your interpretations are gonna be, by human reality, so
widely wrong from the truth, that harping on accuracy now is silly.

This same applies to people readers. You don't need total accuracy.
To think so is very skewed.

Trust me, when I or any other programs, NONE of us TRY to be sloppy.
In fact, we TRY hard to be accurate, as could be, WITH THE MATERIAL
WE ARE SOURCING FROM

All in all, my conclusion, keep the right perspective. This is a non
exact science, one of half heart and half logic.

We cannot do this fully, as that would be to know ALL. It's
impossible. ALL is in the ONE and we are in it and it is all there
is here, and it is all inter twined, which is why we can read it, but
ALL of it is readable, not just the planets on the zodiac, but that
is what we've nailed so far, or been given, as you believe, as you
like. That's where we are.

Keep perspective.

Ciao

Hari Om

Das Goravani

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Das Goravani
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Interesting News Article on Saturn sthalapurana

2009-03-16T07:54:00.001-04:00

|| Om gurave namah ||
Dear Jyotishas,
Here is an interesting writeup, This temple specifically keeps two son's of Shanaischara i.e Maandi and Gulika.
Warm Regards
Sanjay P

"Planet none can afford to ignore

The temple of Lord Ramanathaswami at Thirunaraiyur (Nachiarkoil) near Kumbakonam has a famous shrine for Sanaischaran or Saneeswaran, which is thronged by devotees on Saturdays, writes T. A. SRINIVASAN.

"
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/fr/2004/01/02/stories/2004010201491200.htm

Lord Sanaischaran with Consorts Mandhadevi and Jyeshtadevi and sons Maandhi and Kuligan.

THIRUNARAIYUR OR Nachiarkoil is well known as one of the 108 Vaishnavite Divyadesams, sanctified by Thirumangai Azhwar in 110 verses in his "Periya Thirumozhi" and for its Kal (stone) Garuda Sevai. But it also houses two famous Siva temples. One of them is Siddheswaram, where Lord Siva, known as Siddhanathaswami, is enshrined and the other is the temple for Ramanathaswami, the presiding deity in the island temple at Rameswaram.

The Siddhanathaswami temple is a "Paadal Petra Sthalam" as Thirugnanasambandar and Sundaramurthi Nayanar have sung the glory of the Lord. The Ramanathaswami Temple is more popular for its shrine of Sanaischaran (one who moves slowly), erroneously called Saneeswaran, according to some scholars, with his two wives and two sons.

Situated on the Kumbakonam-Tiruvarur bus route, eight km from Kumbakonam, Thirunaraiyur Ramanathaswami Temple lies between Siddheswaram Siva temple and Thirunaraiyur Nambi (Nachiarkoil) temple. All buses from Kumbakonam to Tiruvarur, Koradacheri, Nannilam, Nagapattinam, Eravancheri and Tiruvidaicheri pass through Thirunaraiyur.

According to legend when King Dasaratha ruled the entire world, Saturn was to pass through Rohini star after staying in Krithigai, on one occasion. Sage Vasishta and others told Dasaratha that if Saturn did so it would spell doom for the world. There would be famine everywhere for 12 years and animals and human beings would be put to much hardship. He requested Dasaratha to prevent it. Dasaratha immediately got into his fast-moving chariot, carrying all Divine weapons and reached the star, Rohini. He saw Saturn moving in his golden chariot towards Rohini and sent the Divine weapons including the "Samhara Asthram" towards him.

The Ramanathaswami Temple ... with renovation work having been taken up, it should soon sport a spruced up look.

Saturn, laughing at the king's futile attempts, told him that He could destroy anybody by His mere look. The powers that Dasaratha had got through severe penance, austerity and Divine grace prevented Saturn from eliminating him. Dasaratha requested Saturn not to pass through Rohini and thus spare the world from experiencing famine for 12 years. Saturn was immensely pleased with the king's concern for the welfare of his subjects and granted the two requests. He also told him that if he visited Thirunaraiyur and bathed in the tank there he would appear before him. Dasaratha did accordingly and Saturn appeared before him. Saturn or Sanaischaran, born to Chayadevi and Suryan (Sun God), takes 30 years to go round the Sun and hence he is called a slow mover. He takes two and a half years to move from one zodiac sign to another. As Thirunaraiyur is the place where He appeared before Dasaratha, it is considered to be an important place of Saturn worship. It is said that in no other place, including the more famous Thirunallar temple, is He worshipped along with his two wives, Mandhadevi and Jyeshtadevi (also known as Neeladevi) and his two sons, Maandhi and Kuligan. According to the sthalapuranam, Lord Rama and Anjaneya, during their return from Lanka to Ayodhya, visited this place.

Saturn is said to go round the legendary Meru Parvatham everyday and embrace it. He was born on a Saturday with Rohini as His birth star. He rides a vehicle pulled by the eagle and carries a bow, an arrow, trishul and gatha in his four hands. He is fond of stotras praising him and the food most liked by Him is rice mixed with gingelly, coconut and jaggery.

A lamp with gingelly seeds, tied in a new cloth and kept in gingelly oil, is lit before him. He likes flowers, dress and other things in blue colour.

She is known by the same name as in Rameswaram ... Parvadhavardhini Ambal.

Though a sub-shrine of the Ramanathaswami temple in Thirunaraiyur, which is also called as Saneeswarar Thirukkoil, Saturn's abode here has separate Dhwajasthambam, Balipeetam and the crow mount in front of it. The sthalavriksham is "erukku" and the holy water source is known as Rama Theertham. The temple is agog with activity on Saturdays and during the Gurupeyarchi and Sanipeyarchi.

The presiding deity in the main temple is Ramanathaswami, facing east, and it is considered to be as holy as the one in Rameswaram. Many devotees who are unable to visit Rameswaram, make their offerings to the Lord here.

The Goddess here, as in Rameswaram, is known as Parvathavardhini and Her shrine faces south. Medha Dakshinamoorthy is enshrined on the southern side and His idol is one of enchanting beauty. On the southwest side is the shrine of Vinayaka while Subramania, with His two Consorts, Valli and Devasena, is worshipped in the shrine on the other side.

Lord Ramanathaswami ... the Moolavar inside the sanctum sanctorum.

There are also shrines for Gajalakshmi, Hanumantha Lingam, Annamalaiyar, Brahma, Durgadevi and Chadikeswarar. There is a separate shrine for Navagrahas with the Sun at the centre with his two Consorts, Ushadevi and Prathyushadevi, which is said to be a rarity. The other eight grahas are found around Sun.

The great temple, which is under the control of the HR and CE Department, is being renovated. The Balalayam was set up on June 5, this year. The kumbabhishekam is planned for January next year.

Contributions may be sent to the Executive Officer, Ramanathaswami Temple, Nachiarkoil-612602 and further particulars can be had from N. Shanmugam, phone number 0435— 2476411/2476157.

Namah, Swaha, Vashat etc.

2009-01-07T00:32:00.000-05:00

Dear Narsimhaji,

Certain Mantras are ending with Namah

Certain ending with Swaha

Certain with Vashat, some with Vaushat, some with Hum and some with Fatt.

Sir, I would like to know in details as to what is the real meaning of each word. What they indicate? When they should be uttered?

It is general belief that Swaha is used only for Homam. But it is not so as certain Mantras are ending with Swaha. e.g. --Aum Hram Hrim Hraum Sah Suryaya Swaha.-- Even in Tarpanam we are using Swaha. - Aum Tarpayami Swaha, Gam Tarpayami Swaha, Glaum Tarpayami Swaha and like.

Your valuable comments will enrich our knowledge.

Dr. Ashwin Rawal

From: Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr@charter.net>
Date: 2009/1/1
Subject: [vedic-wisdom] Re: Namah, Swaha, Vashat etc.
To: vedic-wisdom@yahoogroups.com

Namaste,

Namah simply refers to bowing to a deity.

Swaahaa is from the word su. It refers to hailing a deity and surrendering to the deity. It is used when making offerings to various deities.

Swadhaa is from the root swad, which means to taste and fulfill a desire. It is used when making offerings to pitris (ancestors), who have strong unfilfilled desires.

Vashat is from the root vash, which means to control and command. It is used when one wants to control the energy and channelize it.

Hum refers to creating a cover. It is used when seeking a protective cover of some nature.

Vaushat is also like vashat. It is used when one wants control over one's vision and observation.

Phat is the sound of leaving an arrow. It is used when seeking something specific and leaving a mantra towards the target like an arrow.

Some mantras ending in phat also have a hum and end with "hum phat". It is used when one seeks to strike a target while protecting self.

Mantras ending in Vashat and Phat should be used carefully. They are inappropriate for most people in this age.

* * *

BTW, do not write phat as fatt. The sound "f" (as in "fan") does NOT exist in Sanskrit. It came to Indian languages through the Arabic influence on Hindi and now many Indians get confused between ph and f. The sound ph in Sanskrit words such as phat and phala is pronounced as a strongly aspirated p. It is not pronounced as f in fan.

Online Classical Jyotish texts and translations

2008-12-24T02:59:00.001-05:00

|| Om Gurave Namah ||

Dear Freinds,
You may find this link to be very helpful for online versions of various classical jyotish texts.

http://www.wilbourhall.org/index.html

I will paste some of the links below for easier access,

-Warm Regards
Sanjay P


Surya Siddhanta
PDF	Description
Surya Siddhanta	English translation of the Surya Siddhanta and the Siddhanta Siromani by Sastri (1861). PDF compiled from images available at the Digital Library of India
Surya Siddhanta	English translation of the Surya Siddhanta and of the Siddhanta Siromani by Sastri (1861). [Google Books]
Surya Siddhanta	Surya Siddhanta with the Gudarthaprakashika commentary of Raganatha (Sanskrit). All introductory matter is missing from the scan. [Million Books Project - which lists it as being in Telegu for some reason] [Another version of this text and commentary is available at Biblia Imex]
Surya Siddhanta	Surya Siddhanta 1-11 (Sanskrit) with the Sauravasana tika.. PDF assembled from images available at the Digital Library of India. Page 96 is missing.
Surya Siddhanta	Surya Siddhanta 1-11 (Sanskrit) with the Sauravasana tika.. PDF assembled from images available at the Digital Library of India. Page 96 is missing.


Brahma-Sphuta-Siddhanta of Brahmagupta
PDF	Description
VOL I	Brahma-Sphuta-Siddhanta. PDF compiled from images available at the Digitial Library of India. (Sanskrit with English introduction) . English introduction and complete text of the BSS as found in a manuscript at the Bhandarkar Research Institute, Poona. Index of slokas.
VOL II	Brahma-Sphuta-Siddhanta. PDF compiled from images available at the Digitial Library of India.(Sanskrit/Hindi). Chapters 1-9 of the BSS with the Vasana commentary of Prthudaka Swami and Vigyan Bhashya in Sanskrit with Hindi translation.
VOLIII	Brahma-Sphuta-Siddhanta. PDF compiled from images available at the Digitial Library of India.(Sanskrit/Hindi). Chapters 10-16 of the BSS with the Nutan Tilak commentary of Sudhakar Dwivedi and Vigyan Bhashya in Sanskrit with Hindi translation.
VOL IV	Brahma-Sphuta-Siddhanta. PDF compiled from images available at the Digitial Library of India. (Sanskrit). Chapters 17-24 of the BSS.


Aryabhatiya of Aryabhata
PDF	Description
Aryabhatiya (English)	English translation and notes by Walter Clark [Million Books Project] [Amazon].
Aryabhatiya	Arybhatiya with the commentary of Bhaskara I and Someavara. .PDF compiled from files available at GRETIL. (Romanized Sanskrit)
Aryabhatiya part I	Kalakriyapada with the bhashya of Nilakanthasomasutvan. PDF compiled from images available at the Digital Library of India. Other parts of this work are not yet available at the DLI. (Sanskrit).
Aryabhatiya (Sanskrit)	With the commentary Bhatadipika of Paramadishwara. (PDF ) (Sanskrit).
Printed Texts	Several printed versions of the Aryabhatiya are also available at Vedic Books.


Rekhaganita of Jagannatha Samrat
PDF	Description
Vol I (bks 1-6	Volume 1 of the Rekhaganita of Jagannatha Samrat. A Sanskrit translation of Nasir al-Din al-Tusi's Arabic recension of Euclid's Elements. (Sanskrit)[Google Books]
Vol II (bks 7-15)	Volume 2 of the Rekhaganita of Jagannatha Samrat. A Sanskrit translation of Nasir al-Din al-Tusi's Arabic recension of Euclid's Elements.(Sanskrit) [Digital Library of India]


Siddhanta Siromani of Bhaskaracarya
PDF	Description
Siddhanta Siromani	Siddhanta Siromani in Sanskrit. PDF compiled from images available at the Digital Library of India.
Siddhanta Siromani (English)	English translation of the Siddhanta Siromani. PDF compiled from images available at the Digital Library of India. A printed Sanskrit version is available at Vedic Books.
Siddhanta Siromani	English translation of the Surya Siddhanta and the Siddhanta Siromani by Sastri (1861). PDF compiled from images available at the Digital Library of India
Siddhanta Siromani	English translation of the Surya Siddhanta and of the Siddhanta Siromani by Sastri (1861). [Google Books]


Varahamihira
PDF	Description
Pancasiddhanitika	The Pancasiddhantika of Varahamihira. Sanskrit text and commentary with English translation. [Google books]
Brhat Samhita (English)	The Brhat Samhita of Varahamihira (English translation). [Google Books].
Brhat Samhita	The Brhat Samhita of Varahamihira (Sanskrit Text). Several pages are illegible. PDF compiled from images available at the Digital Library of India.
Brhat Jataka (English)	The Brhat Jataka of Varahamihira (English translation) 1885. [Google Books].
Brhat Jataka (English)	The Brhat Jataka of Varahamihira (English translation) 1905. Same text as above, different edition .[Google Books].
Brhat Jataka	The Brhat Jataka of Varahamihira (Sanskrit). Volume I of a two-volume set. PDF compiled from a DjVu file availabe at the Million Books Project. (The title given is the Hora Shastra).
Printed Texts	Several printed versions of the Brhat Jataka and Brhat Samhita available at Vedic Books.


Vrddhayavanjataka of Minaraja (Text on Greek Astrology)
PDF	Description
VOLI	PDF compiled from scans obtained at the Digital Library of India. It is the first of a three volume set on this astrological work. In places, the scans are barely, if at all, legible.
VOL II	PDF compiled from scans obtained at the Digital Library of India. It is the second of a three volume set on this astrological work.The third volume is not (yet?) available from DLI. In places, the scans are barely, if at all, legible.

Vyakarana


Astadhyayi of Panini (And Related Works)
PDF	Description
Kashika	The Astadhyayi of Panini, with the Kashika commentary, and the Nyasa and Padamanjara commentaries on the Kashika. PDF compiled from files once available at the now apparently defunct Sansknet project.
Mahabhashya	The Mahabhashya, or Great Commentary on Panini. PDF compiled from files available at GRETIL. Original input by George Cardona
Mahabhashya	The Mahabhashya, or Great Commentary on Panini, with two Sanskrit commentaries.PDF compiled from files available at the Digital Library of India
Amarakosha	The Amarakosha. PDF compiled from files available at GRETIL
Amarakosha with Commentary	Amarakosha with the Commentary of Maheshwara. [Google] Uncorrected
Dhatupatha	The Dhatupatha. Input by Bhagwan Sing at Sanskritdocuments.org
LSK	The Laghu Siddhanta Kaumudi . Sanskrit with Sanskrit commentary. PDF compiled from images available at the DLI
PÄá¹‡ini's Grammatik	PÄá¹‡inis Grammatik: Herausgegeben, Ã¼bersetzt, erlÃ¤utert und mit verschiedenen Indices versehen. Otto Von Bohtlingk.1887 Only one copy on Google as of Oct. 2008[Google Books]

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Daily Worship for Jyotishas

2008-09-27T12:32:00.000-04:00

GURU'S NOTE:

While agreeing to this, we are of the view that each individual member should adhere to these guidelines inside the premises of the Center and should gradually move towards self-purification. The students of Jyotish will be given a specific mantra and can add the Maha mantra to their daily japa.

The following are provided for daily practice: -

Wake up and worship your family deity or alternatively, Sri Jagannath with the Dwadasakshari Mantra " OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA" as He is the head of Vasudeva Kutumba. This world is one family and should be viewed as such under all circumstances for proper spiritual growth.

Take a bath and worship Sri Ganga Mata while bathing chant " HAR HAR GANGE"

Perform daily Pooja of the following deities:

	Sri Ganesha: OM SRI GANESAYA NAMA
	Sri Guru: VYAM VYASADEVAYA NAMAH
	Sri Surya: OM GHRINI SURYAADITYA
	Sri Vishnu: HARE KRISHNA HARE KRISHNA KRISHNA KRISHNA HARE HARE, HARE RAMA HARE RAMA RAMA RAMA HARE HARE
	Sri Maha Vishnu OM NAMO NARAYANAYA
	Sri Lakshmi: OM SHRIM HRIM KLIM MAHALAKSHMAYAI JAGATPRASUTAYAI SWAHA
	Sri Siva: OM NAMAH SIVAYA NAMO SOMESHWARAYA
	Sri Mata: OM AIM HRIM KLIM CHAMUNDAYAI VICHCHAI

	This practice will take about one hour and it is advisable to start this at 6 AM daily. Do not get up immediately after the pooja. Do a Shanti Mantra or a Bhajan of your Ista devata.
	The rituals should be kept at a minimum: Panch Upachar of the Ista devata only. Offer water, ghee lamp, incense, and naivedya (food), flower & sandal paste.
	Meditate on the ekakshar mantra of Sri Vishnu/ Krishna " SHRIM" for 15 minutes before starting the pooja.
	A block diagram on the Sankhya Shastra is enclosed for your perusal.

With best wishes,

Sanjay Rath

To,

ALL MEMBERS & STUDENTS,

Sri Jagannath Vedic Center

31 March 1999 22:24:07

Jyotish Scope

2008-09-27T12:26:00.000-04:00

EVERY SAINT HAD A PAST AND EVERY SINNER A FUTURE

2008-09-22T07:19:00.002-04:00

EVERY SAINT HAD A PAST AND EVERY SINNER A FUTURE
Original Copy :www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/3963/dasamsa.htm

© Sanjay Rath

Self-realisation and the search for the Ultimate Truth are described as Adhyatma Yoga. Karma Yogi's always strive for perfection in whatever they do and it is this perfection which is a manifestation of Divinity for the Lord is perfect. Maharishi Parasara advises the use of the Vimsamsa (D – 20 chart) for examining Upasana (worship). However, we are not attempting to examine individual spiritual development, but instead, are trying to identify the karma (action or deeds) through which this will manifest. The Dasamsa (one-tenth division) which delves into the karma of the horoscope, is an important tool to examine the extent and direction of the Adhyatma Yoga (action for spiritual attainments).

The proverb " Every Saint has a past and every sinner a future " aptly describes the scope to include every individual horoscope. However, such a vast scope would make the study cumbersome and in order to make the study more meaningful it is necessary to restrict the scope to those horoscopes where religiosity is the predominant feature.

2. The Arthatrikona and the 4th & 7th houses determine profession. Aspects on the tenth, and the Mokshtrikona (4th, 8th & 12th) should also be considered. Ketu, being the natural Mokshkarak is the Karyesha. Ketu influenced by Saturn produces a Tapasvi or one who will strive for spiritual attainments. This could be by conjunction / aspect or by the placement of Ketu in Capricorn Dasamsa which is ruled by Saturn and is also the natural karma house. The sun indicates temples, institution and produces leadership qualities while Jupiter the divine Teacher and rules Dhi (intelligence). The readers may like to have a copy of Dr. BV Raman's " Notable Horoscope " in hand for ready reference. The charts used in this article are corrected to Chitrapaksh Ayanamsa.

DIVINE INCARNATIONS

Chart 1 is the Dasamsa of Lord Krishna (Sri Vishnu Avatar). Mokshkarak Ketu is in Capricorn with the Sun indicating Adhyatma Yoga of a very high order more so since this receives the aspect of its dispositor Saturn from the fifth bhava (also indicates the building of temples and institutions by the followers). Since this yoga occurs in the seventh bhava, Sri Krishna expounded the philosophy of universal love. This fact is also supported by the placement of the lagnesh (moon) in the 12th bhava (Moksh) with Venus (Karaka of Love) indicating perfect understanding of the subject and its purity as well. Graha Malika Yoga covers the 9th house (Dharma) to Lagna (Throne) confirming his political ascendancy for the sake of Dharma. Since Mars is the initiator, this political rise to be the ruler of Mathura and later Dwarka would be through battles. Within this MALIKA YOGA, There is DHARMAKARMADIPA PARIVARTAN YOGA between the ninth & tenth lords Mars and Jupiter confirming that the actions of Sri Krishna would be for the establishment of Dharma. Since this Yogakaraka Mars is also the 5th lord in the 9th house, the most Holy Srimad Bhagavat Gita was expounded at the battlefield of Kurukshetra. Rahu in Lagna gives an astute political mind, but in Cancer, this shall always be used for noble purposes. The tenth house placement of Jupiter both as the 9th Lord (Sri Vishnu) gives Him the spotless reputation of being an incarnation of Sri Vishnu.

Rahu causes papargala on the tenth Guru and its placement in Lagna indicates that some persons will either doubt his being an Avatar or even his very existence. The reasons for such doubts can be seen from the houses aspected by Rahu. For example, Rahu aspects the 7th and king Sisupala's doubts / enmity were due to the love marriage of Sri Krishna with Rukmini. This papargala is fully obstructed by the Sun & Ketu indicating that such doubts will be removed by the Tapaobala (spiritual strength) of the lord. Another example is seen in the aspect of Rahu on the 5th house and 5th lord Mars in the 9th house in that the Bhagavat Gita starts with the dejection and delusion of the greatest Archer Arjuna and this is removed by the lord subsequently.

RELIGION FOUNDERS

Chart – 2 is the Dasamsa of Jesus Christ the founder of Christianity. Mokshkarak Ketu is in Makar flanked by the luminaries as the dispositor Saturn goes to the 9th house indicating a high level of Adhyatma yoga. Since Ketu is in the 5th bhava, the philosophy is centered on universal compassion. A GuruMangal Yoga is in the 10th aspected by the compassionate moon from the 4th house. This lunar aspect tends to exalt Jupiter and debilitate Mars indicating his firm faith on Ahimsa (non-violence). The Parivartan yoga (exchange of signs) between 8th lord Mars and 10th lord Mercury indicate the hostile environment in which he preached Ahimsa as well as his crucification and death by a spear (Mars). The subsequent resurrection is also due to the Parivartan yoga involving the lagna lord Mercury. The Sun & Venus in the 6th bhava fail to determine political career due to the Parivartan yoga of Venus with Saturn which also aspects them in the philosophical Aquarius.

Jupiter in the 10th bhava determines karma. This has the papargala of Rahu in the 11th bhava indicating betrayal by close friends and colleagues. The dispositor of Rahu is the Moon in the 4th showing his divine compassion even for these evil people. However, the argala of Rahu is fully obstructed by 5th lord (followers) Saturn who did not spare these evil doers.

Chart – 3 is the Dasamsa of Guru Nanak Dev the founder of Sikhism. Ketu the Mokshkarak is in Makar in the arthatrikana with the 10th lord Mercury. Lagnesh Guru is in the 10th aspected by the Sani–Chandra yoga in the fourth house. The aspect of the compassionate Moon from Pisces tends to exalt Jupiter and it was during Guru dasa that he traveled and preached the doctrine of Faith (Pisces) in God. The aspect of Saturn tends to debilitate Jupiter and caused imprisonment by Babar. The Gajakesari yoga prevailed and Guru Nanak was able to convert Babar into a benevolent ruler. Later during Saturn dasa, he settled down with family. It is noteworthy that a single Jupiter in the 10th in dignity can give lasting fame and an excellent reputation. The fifth lord Mars is debilitated in the 8th (inheritance) with Rahu causing papargala on Guru which is partly obstructed by Venus. The fifth is aspected by the ninth lord Sun causing unobstructed argala on Guru as well as Mars. Thus the legacy of becoming the next Guru of the Sikhs was not inherited by his Son (Mars) and instead by his faithful pupil (Sun)

SAINTS

Spiritual Pisces rises in the Dasamsa of Sai Baba of Shirdi (Chart – 4) while mokshkarak Ketu is in Makar in the 11th bhava indicating universal Brotherhood to be the main them of his philosophy. A Bhadra Mahapurush yoga of Mercury influences the lagna & 10th lord Jupiter and during Mercury dasa the Saint had many followers and wide popularity. Saturn in the third and Mars in the 6th made him extraordinarily brave and it is recorded that he was friendly to a wild tiger that visited him at the village occasionally. However, Saturn dasa would have been very difficult due to its aspect on the 5th and 9th houses thereby depriving recognition of merits (on followers) and great poverty. Rahu in the 5th bhava indicate followers from all faiths.

Spiritual Pisces also rises in the dasamsa of Ramakrishna Paramhamsa (Chart – 5) and Ketu is in the 11th in Makar indicating a philosophy of universal brotherhood. The Adhyatma yoga is very strong due to the 12th house (Moksh) placement of lagna & 10th lord Jupiter with 12th lord Saturn in philosophical Aquarius. The conjunction of Venus with Ketu indicates patriotism in religion and he played a vital role in the moral awakening of the Indians who found inner strength to fight for freedom. This yoga also made him respect women, in general and he even looked upon his wife as a manifestation of the Divine Mother. The Parivartan yoga between the Mercury and Moon produces a Rajyoga and also Sarswati yoga. This gave a very high level of intelligence as well as very erudite followers (5th Bhava) and a complete understanding of the Vedas leading to Vedanta. Rahu in the 5th shows followers from all faiths. The 5th is also aspected by Yogakaraka Mars from Aries in conjunction with the exalted Sun. this shows the founding of the Ramakrishna Mission by Swami Vivekananda his ardent disciple.

PHILOSOPHERS ON RELIGION

Chart–6 is the Dasamsa of Aurobindo Ghose. Mystic Scorpio rises with Parivartan yoga between the Moon & Saturn indicating a philosopher of outstanding genius and since the 9th bhava is involved, the subject is religion and spiritualism. The exalted Ketu in the second showing spiritualism dominates the arthatrikona. However, Mars in the 6th bhava in trine to the Sun gave a job in the Baroda service initially. The potent Grahamalika yoga covers the Mokshtrikona indicating that the spiritual path shall being under the difficult circumstances of captivity (Rahu in the starting 8th bhava). This was followed by his vision of lord Krishna (Parivartan yoga between Saturn and 9th lord Moon – incidentally, the exalted Moon rises in the lagna of Sri Krishna with Saturn in the 7th bhava.) The Sun in swakshetra in 10th bhava in trine to Ketu shows the founding of Auroville at Pondicherry.

During Rahu dasa he produced some of the finest literary gems. Since Rahu is exalted and unaspected, it gives the results of its dispositor Mercury in the 5th house. This gives a natural flair for writing and, deep poetic vein as well as poetic abilities are seen in the aspect of Venus on Mercury in the 5th house. Like Ramakrishna Paramhamsa, he played a vital role in the moral upliftment of Indians. Further, since both Mercury and Venus are debilitated, the writings are melancholic about the state of India (pre – independence) and portray a bright future (post – independence) due to the Neechabhanga of both planets caused by the Gajakesari yogi Jupiter. Beside, Jupiter is in the terminal bhava of the Grahamalika yoga indicating the Goals of the native. Incidentally, his birthday does coincide with that of Indian Independence. Does this ring a bell for Numerologists? This termination of the yoga in the house of Moksh by Jupiter attempts to explain the ' glow ' over his body for more than a week after his death, which is otherwise, beyond human comprehension.

Some astrologers opine that Grahamalika yoga occurs when all the nine planets are involved. Technically, this is impossible for a Panch / Shast Malika yoga (i.e. covering 5/6 signs in a row) since either Rahu / Ketu would be out of it. The divisional charts where this yoga occurs are the focus of the natives' life. People born with this yoga in the dasamsa have a definite purpose to achieve and this yoga shall predominate over every other combination. For example in the dasamsa of Smt. Indira Gandhi, Shasta Grahamalika yoga occurs from the 8th bhava (legacy) to the lagna (throne). She was destined to inherit the political legacy of her father and be the longest serving P.M. of India. As enunciated above, the circumstances under which the path shall begin.

The Dasamsa of Jagadguru Adi Sankara (Chart – 7) has Ketu and the Sun in the Arthatrikona indicating religiosity and the founding of institution to propagate his Advaita philosophy. The lagnesh joins Rahu (Rudra) in the 12th while the 10th lord Saturn is also in the Mokshtrikona in the 4th house. Gajakesari yoga dominates the 5th house showing extraordinary I.Q. and brilliant poetic skills. His composition of hymns & slokas are perfect in meter and the sheer volume of his works in a very small lifetime is unparalleled in the world. This yoga also gave loyal disciples (5th house) who, when summoned, with blind faith (Jupiter in Pisces) walked over a river (Moon) as Lotus blossoms (Jupiter) sprang under his feet.

The potent Grahamalika yoga covers the Moksh Trikona from the 4th bhava to the 8th bhava. The terminal bhava is Sagittarius (Dharma) with Mercury (writing, speech) as the 5th lord (knowledge) and the dispositor of the luminaries (enlightenment) in the 8th house (Mysticism, Spiritualism) and in so many words, attempts to describe his goals. The starting of the Grahamalika yoga is from Saturn (rules Capricorn – Crocodile) in the 4th house (Mother). It is said that Adi Sankara obtained permission from his mother to become a sanyasi when a crocodile was tugging at his legs in the river. Another feature is the Sun in the second bhava Sun aspected by its dispositor Mercury showing extraordinary debating skills and the 5th lordship shows the defeated debaters becoming his followers

SAINTLY BARDS

In the Dasamsa of Sri Tyagaraja (Chart – 8), Ketu flanked by the luminaries dominates the arthtrikona showing that he was a Saint first and that music was his medium of expression. Panch Grahamalika yoga covers the Kamatrikona from the 3rd house Mercury (Singing) to the 7th bhava. The terminal bhava here is Sagittarius (Dharma) with the Moon (Poetry, Emotions) as the second lord (Voice, Singing) and shows his composition of hymns and devotional songs. The aspect of Venus from lagna on the 7th house Moon is a specific combination for proficiency in poetry, and is also found in the dasamsa of Rabindranath Tagore.

HEADS OF RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS

Chart 9 & 10 are the Dasamsa's of two Shankaracharya's who have headed the Math's (Religious Institutions) founded by Adi Sankara. Both of them have spiritual Pisces rising with Rahu (Rudra) and ascendant & tenth lord Jupiter in the 4th house (a mokshtrikona and a quadrant), involved in the DHARMAKARMADIPA YOGA with 9th lord Mars. Incidentally, in the dasamsa of Adi Sankara, the 5th house is aspected by Jupiter from Pisces showing that the planets influencing the 5th bhava in the dasamsa of influential leaders will also influence the lagna bhava of followers. In both charts, the Sun (ruling leadership & institutions) has unobstructed argala on Jupiter showing the headship of institutions while the aspect / conjunction of Saturn on the 10th house and the Sun confirms these to be religious institutions.

However, the difference in the charts shows the way individual karma would manifest. While chart – 9 has Saturn aspecting Ketu indicating focus on individual spiritual development, chart – 10 has Mercury in the 5th bhava as the dispositor Moon is in the 10th bhava indicating focus on literary activities and knowledge.

PRIEST

Chart – 11 is the Dasamsa of a temple priest. The arthtrikona has exalted Ketu in the second and Venus in the 6th indicating singing of hymns & slokas as service. The 9th bhava Moon in Cancer aspected by Jupiter and Saturn indicates the deity (Sri Krishna). Grahamalika yoga covers the Kamatrikona from one Upachaya to another (11th to 3rd) and different kind of Adhyatma yoga results by the Sun (Temple) in the initiating bhava and debilitated Jupiter in Makar in the terminal bhava. To overcome the desire for wealth shall be the greatest challenges for such yoga.

SAINTLY ASTROLOGERS

Chart – 12 is the Dasamsa of Dr. BV Raman, the learned editor of A.M. Both Lagna lord Venus and tenth lord Saturn is in mokshtrikona. Grahamalika yoga covers the mokshtrikona from the 4th bhava to the 8th bhava. The terminal house is Sagittarius (Dharma) with exalted Ketu (Moksh emancipation / undying fame) and Mercury (Writing, Speech, Astrology) as the 5th lord (Knowledge) in the 8th bhava (Spiritualism, Occult Studies) prophesizes the predestined goal of becoming the most eminent astrologer of modern times. This also indicates inheritance of knowledge from grandfather. The initiator is lagnesh Venus in the 4th indicating that he belonged to a family of astrologers. The Parivartan yoga of Venus & Sun indicates the Astrological Magazine as an institution to initiate the Grahamalika yoga, and its rise under his able leadership.

Jupiter, the significator for intuition, is involved in a powerful Parivartan yoga with Mars, occupies mystic Scorpio, and is a part of the Grahamalika yoga and aspects lagna. During Guru dasa, he achieved worldwide repute due to accurate predictions on the course of the Second World War. The debilitated Sun in the arthtrikona is a powerful Rajyoga, but the aspect of debilitated 10th lord Saturn converts this to the headship of a quasi – religious institution (The A.M.)

Chart – 13 is the Dasamsa of Sri Ramanuja. Readers may not the similarities with the Rasi & dasamsa of Adi Sankara and that he was a brilliant philosopher who preached Vishist Advaita philosophy. Besides the Sun & Ketu, the Mercury is also in Arthtrikona as Jupiter is in lagna confirming his astrological skills. He is the author of ' Bhavartha Ratnakara ' an astrological gem that is now available in English from the pen of Dr. B.V.Raman.

POLITICS & RELIGION

Chart – 14 is the Dasamsa of Mahatma Gandhi. Mars and Venus in the 6th house Gemini determined initial profession as a lawyer. However, the debilitated Sun in the 10th bhava is a sure shot yoga for politics. He led the struggle for Indian Independence. The mokshkarak Ketu is in Makar with Saturn, Jupiter and Mercury indicating a very high order of Adhyatma yoga. Jupiter indicates intelligence while Mercury shows his writing skills (he edited a newspaper). Since this adhyatma yoga occurs in lagna, he expounded the unique path of SATYAGRAHA as the means to freedom and politics (Lagna is the throne – significator Sun). He dressed like a fakir and even met the Queen of England in that goal a sign of a true saint.

Readers may analyze charts in the above lines. In this article, I have attempted to highlight the importance of the dasamsa and the Shodasavarga charts and it is hoped that this will prove to be an important tool for detailed astrological analysis.

REFERENCES

Sri Krishna 19.7.3228 BC; 1ag 1s18.06; Moon 1s15.48; Mars 2s29.12;Venus 3s11.00;Rahu 3s14.30; Sun 4s17.54; Jup 4s27.00; Merc 5s0.54; Sat 7s12.48; Ayanamsa + 48.46
JESUS CHRIST 25.12.7 BC;1ag 5s14.05; Rahu 6s29.11; Ven 7s21.37; Sun 8s6.35; Merc 8s14.34; Mars 10s13.05;Sat 11s20.23; Jup 11s21.53; Moon 11s5.17; Ayanamsa + 4.03
GURU NANAK 8.11.1470 ( OS ) ; Moon 1s6.51; Sat 1s7.39; Ketu 2s22.21; Leg 4s15.00; Jup 5s13.03; Ven 6s4.33; Mars 6s29.57; Sun 7s9.03; Merc 7s20.57; Ayanamsa 16.27;
SAI BABA 18.5.1837; Rahu Os9.57; Sun 1s5.48; Ven 1s5.49; Merc 1s26.34; Jup 3s19.22; Mars 4s2.18;Sat ( R ) 6s21.11; Moon 6s14.02; Lag 7s26.18; Ayanamsa 21.35
RAMAKRISHNA 18.2.1836; Ketu 1s2.54; Jup 2s24.34; Sat ( R ) 6s13.44; Mars 9s21.43; Lag 10s3.27; Merc 10s15.07; Moon 10s21.49; Sun 10s6.53; Ven 11s8.03; Ayanamasa 21.32
A. GHOSE 15.8.1872; Rahu 1s16.39; Mars 3s5.25; Jup 3s21.37; Lag 3s25.17;Sun 4s0.22; Merc 4s23.32; Ven 4s8.34;Sat 8s23.37;Moon 8s5.46; Ayanamsa 22.02
ADI SANKARA 25.3.44 BC; Sun 0s8.12; Ven 0s3.00; Merc 0s24.06; Rahu 1s11.13; Moon 2s9.12; Lag 3s9.00; Sat 8s25.30; Jup 10s3.36; Mars 11s2.36; Ayanamsa
TYAGARAJA 4.5.1767; Sun 0s21.43; Ven 1s19.31; Sat 1s27.37; Mars 2s2.43; Lag 3s23.34; Moon 3s5.15; Ketu 3s12.51; Jup 4s21.48; Merc 11s28.55; Ayanamsa 20.35
PARAMACHARYA 20.5.1894; Sun 1s5.42; Merc 1s14.54; Jup 1s16.47; Lag 4s22.40; Ketu 5s13.12; Sat ( R ) 5s23.28; Moon 7s12.58; Mars 10s13.53; Ven 11s20.47;
JAGADGURU 13.11.1917; Jup ( R ) 1s15.52; Ketu 2s10.57; Sat 3s21.41; Mars 4s13.00; Sun 6s27.27; Moon 6s8.18; Merc 7s2.58; Lag 7s26.47; Ven 8s13.51; Ayanamsa 22.41
PRIEST 11.1.1894; Jup 0s29.09; Lag 2s17.03; Ketu 5s22.16; Sat 6s2.22; Mars 7s14.46; Merc 8s17.58; Sun 8s28.57; Moon 10s16.46; Ven 10s8.56; Ayanamsa 22.21
12. DR. B. V. RAMAN 8.8.1912; Moon 1s24.58; Sat 1s10.12; Sun 3s23.01; Ven 4s2.17; Merc 4s14.25; Mars 4s21.24; Ketu 5s22.49; Jup 7s13.02; Lag 10s10.09; AYANAMSA 22.36
RAMANUJA 4.41017; Sun 0s10.02; Ven 0s15.06; Merc 0s22.59; Rahu 1s12.12; Moon 2s12.20; Jup 2s1.30; Lag 3s10.33; Mars 3s29.54; Sat 8s18.48; Ayanamsa10.10
M. K. GANDHI 2.10.1869; Jup 0s29.00; Moon 3s28.35; Rahu 3s12.11; Sun 5s16.57; Mars 6s26.14; Ven 6s24.28; Merc 6s11.44; Lag 6s11.49; Sat 7s18.32; Ayanamsa 22.00