Monday, May 28, 2007

Sudasa Calculations

Dear Sanjiv and others,

Here is a quick guide to Sudasa calculation.

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Om Sriyai Namaha


I am going to throw some more light on Sudasa below. Before I do that, here is a word of caution. Sudasa is a purely materialistic dasa. It shows money and
power. Goal of astrologers should be to help clients in their material pursuits and at the same time lead to their spiritual growth. Relying too much on Sudasa may not lead to proper guidance, as it is a materialistic dasa. So please refrain from using it too much. Use it only when needed.

In addition to this article, read Sanjay's two books I mentioned, for definition and examples of Sudasa.


Find the constellation occupied by natal Moon. Find the fraction traversed by Moon in that constellation. Find the same fraction of the zodiac (360 degrees).
Add that to natal lagna. The result is called "Sree Lagna" (SL). Sree means "prosperous" and it also stands for "Goddess Lakshmi", who is in charge of money in Hindu mythology.

EXAMPLE: I gave an example in a previous mail and Sanjiv used it as a 'template' to create another example by changing numbers:

> I will attempt a detail calculation of my sudasa per your instructions. I

> appreciate if you could confirm my calculations.
> Reference: March 20, 1966; Calcutta, India.

Sanjiv's birthtime: 9:40 am (IST)

> (1) Moon is at 13:28:51 in Aq. He is in Satabhishak constellation which

> at 6:40:0 in Aq.

In the two examples so far, Moon is in Satabhishak constellation and it starts from 6:40:0 in Aq. You will need to be familiar with the starting points of various constellations.

Even if you don't know this, you can easily figure it out if you have a program that shows Moon's longitude, nakshatra and pada (quarter). Quarters of
constellations start from longitudes that look like xx0:0:0, xx3:20:0 and xx6:40:0 (deg:min:sec). If your program tells you that Moon is at 21:34:17 (in
Sg) in Poorvashadha 3rd pada (quarter), you can easily figure out that the 3rd quarter starts at 20:0:0, 2nd quarter at 16:40:0 and 1st quarter at 13:20:0.
So Moon's advancement in constellation is 21:34:17 minus 13:20:0 = 8:14:17.

> (2) His advancement in his constellation is 13:28:51 minus 6:40:0 =
> (3) His advancement as a fraction is: (6+48/60+51/3600)/13.333333333 =
> (6.8141666667)*3/40 = 0.5110625 (Note: 13.3333 degrees is the length of a
> constellation and it is equal to 40/3).
> (4) This fraction of the zodiac (360 degrees) is 0.5110625*360 = 183.9825
> degrees, i.e. 183 deg 58 min 57 sec.
> (5) We have to add this (183:58:57) to lagna (46:03:42).
> (6) We get 231:01:39, i.e. 21 deg 01 min 39 sec in SCORPIO. This is the
> longitude
> of "Sree Lagna", which initiates Sudasa. (Note: Sree means "prosperous"

> also stands for "Goddess Lakshmi", who is in charge of money in Hindu

Upto step 5, everything is perfect. You made a mistake in step 6. Check your addition. You forwarded a carry from seconds to degrees directly. The answer
should be 230:02:39, i.e. 20 deg 2 min 39 sec in Scorpio.


Find the distance from SL (Sree Lagna) to the end of the sign containing it. Divide it by 30. That fraction represents the remainder of the first dasa (dasa
running at birth). In Sanjiv's case, it should be (30:0:0-20:2:39)/(30:0:0)= 9.95583333/30.0= 0.33186111.


Find the lengths of various dasas *just as in* Narayana dasa. Please refer to my previous posts on Narayana dasa, especially the one giving rules. In the
case of dual lords, you have to choose the stronger lord just as in Narayana dasa.

As far as finding the lengths of the dasas of various signs is concerned, there is no difference between Narayana dasa and Sudasa. The only difference is
that the first dasa is reduced in Sudasa. Find the remainder in first dasa at birth by multiplying dasa years with the fraction found above.

In Sanjiv's case, Scorpio has SL. Ketu occupies SL and so we should take the second lord, Mars. He is in Pisces, 5th from Sc. So Sc dasa is for 5-1=4
years. However, we have to multiply this with 0.33186111 (see above) and 4x0.33186111 = 1.32744444 years, i.e. 1 yr 3 mo 27.88 da.
This is the duration of Sc dasa.

[Note: After all the 12 dasas are over, we start the second cycle. Sum of the first cycle and second cycle of ANY rasi's dasa is 12 years. So Sc dasa in
second cycle will be 10 yr 8 mo 2.12 da]


Based on whether SL is in an odd or even rasi, dasas will progress in forward or backward order (respectively). First, dasas of 4 quadrants will run (1st,
4th, 7th and 10th); then dasas of 4 panaparas will run (2nd, 5th, 8th, 11th); and then dasas of 4 apoklimas will run (3nd, 6th, 9th, 12th).

Example 1: If SL is in Ge (an odd sign), direction is "forward" (zodiacal). Dasa sequence will be Ge, Vi, Sg, Pi (qudrants over), Cn, Li, Cp, Ar (panaparas
over), Le, Sc, Aq and Ta (apoklimas over).

Example 2: If SL is in Cn (an even sign), direction is "backward" (anti-zodiacal). Dasa sequence will be Cn, Ar, Cp, Li (qudrants over), Ge, Pi, Sg, Vi (panaparas over), Ta, Aq, Sc, Le (apoklimas over). Note that quadrants, panaparas and apoklimas are all being reckoned in the backward (anti-zodiacal)
order here.

Go through these two examples carefully and you will understand the dasa sequence rule very clearly.


Find them *just as in* Narayana dasa.

Some examples have already been given and some more will be given in time. See Sanjay's second book for a couple of excellent examples.

Give importance to arudha lagna (AL) as this is a materialistic dasa. For example, 12th from AL shows expenditure and losses and 11th from AL shows
gains. This is why Jaimini referred planets in 11th and 12th from AL when talking about gains and gains.

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Those who are interested in Sudasa can now compute it for Sanjiv's chart. Most of the calculations have already been given. SL is at 20:2:39 in Scorpio and
Sc dasa's remainder at birth is 1 yr 3 mo 27.88 da. Other dasa years will be as in Narayana dasa. YOU have to find the dasa sequence and compute individual dasas.
Data again: 20th March 1966, 9:40 am (IST), Calcutta, India (88e22, 22n32)  Compute dasas upto 2000. Then explain the following data (written by

> Since Aug '94 a downward trend in regards to my finances started which
> was realized by Aug'95. By May'96 it had reached its peak. But then,
> to counter the circumstances I had initiated some efforts which
> materialized in July '96. However, these results came with a price tag
> of apx. $75, 000. I am still in the process of settling the accounts.

Don't go upto antardasas and explain JUST using DASAS why financial troubles started around Aug 1994. Try your best to come up with a credible argument. IF you give it your best shot, I will come to your help!

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Wednesday, May 23, 2007



(c) 1999, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao
You cannot reproduce this article, in full or in part, without written
permission from author.

[Dedication: This article is dedicated to Pandit Jagannath Rath,
grandfather and guru of my guru Sri Sanjay Rath.]


Sage Parasara mentioned a few special lagnas even before mentioning the
results of various divisional charts and houses. He also mentioned that
houses can be counted from these special lagnas, just like from lagna.
He later mentioned arudha lagna and talked about houses counted from it.
His mention that houses can be counted from special lagnas clearly
indicates that he wanted special lagnas to be used instead of lagna for
some clear purposes.

He, however, did not elaborate what these special lagnas stand for and
for what purposes they should be used. We can only guess from names and
experiment. What I am writing here is based on what my gurus taught me
and what I found in my researches. You should not accept it blindly. You
should keep your mind open to various alternatives.

As lagna stands for self, various lagnas should stand for various
*shades* of "self". Depending on the shade of the meaning of a lagna, we
can interpret the meanings of houses counted from it. I will cover
lagna, arudha lagna, ghati lagna and hora lagna in this article. I will
cover special lagnas in greater depth in my coming book "A Textbook of
Applied Vedic Astrology". If you want to learn more, wait for this book!

When one clearly understands the meanings of various lagnas and finds
the right house from the right lagna in the right divisional chart, one
can explain known facts without beating around the bush and stretching
things too far.


Lagna stands for "physical and/or *true* self".

Arudha lagna stands for "manifestation of self, in this maya (illusory)
world". Typically it deals with 'perceptions'.

In general, arudha pada of a house deals with the manifestation of the
significations of that house in this material world, which is a maya

Ghati lagna stands for "self, from the point of view of power, fame and

Hora lagna stands for "self, from the point of view of financial


Lagna shows one's nature and arudha lagna shows how others perceive one.
Lagna deals with true self and arudha lagna deals with perceived (maya)
self. In addition, the chart to which lagnas we are looking at belong
will qualify these further. For example, dasamsa (D-10, chart based on
10th division of signs) deals with one's movement in the society
("career" in contemporary parlance). So lagna in D-10 shows one's nature
when moving in the society. Arudha lagna in D-10 shows one's perceived
nature/status when moving in the society. Siddhamsa (D-24, chart based
on the 24th division of signs) deals with intellect, learning and
knowledge. Lagna in D-24 shows one's nature when dealing with matters of
knowledge. Similarly, arudha lagna in D-24 shows others' perceptions of
the same. Let us denote arudha lagna by AL.

EXAMPLE 1: Sonia Gandhi, widow of Rajiv Gandhi (former Prime Minister of
India), has lagna in Sagittarius and Mars occupies lagna, in D-10. So
she has to be aggressive, dominating, imposing and arrogant when moving
in the society. However, AL is in Libra in dasamsa and Venus occupies
Gemini. So she is perceived by people as a sweet, balanced, intelligent
and diplomatic lady.

EXAMPLE 2: Late Rajiv Gandhi had lagna and Jupiter in Sagittarius and
AL, Sun and Ketu in Virgo, in D-10. Jupiter in Sagittarius lagna makes
him a noble, principled, polite and idealistic person when moving in the
society. However, Sun and Ketu in AL in Virgo made people perceive him
as an immature, royal, imposing, aristocratic, deceptive, rash and
intelligent person. Ketu's situation in AL made him look like a corrupt
and deceptive person (e.g. Bofors scandal).

EXAMPLE 3: Nakshatramsa (D-27, chart of strengths, weaknesses and
inherent nature) of Microsoft CEO Bill Gates has lagna in Virgo, Mercury
in Aries and AL in Scorpio with Saturn in it. His D-10 has lagna in
Aquarius, Rahu in Pisces with Moon, AL in Aries and Mars in Libra.

His TRUE nature is: Inherently (D-27), an intelligent and hyperactive
thinker (lagna in Virgo and Mercury in Aries). In career (D-10), a
creative and imaginative philosopher and thinker (lagna in Aquarius and
its lord Rahu in watery Pisces with Moon).

His PERCEIVED nature in this maya (illusory) world is: Inherently
(D-27), an introvert (Saturn in AL) and a scheming and cunning person
(AL in Scorpio). In career (D-10), a dynamic enterpreneur (AL in Aries
and Mars in 7th).

EXAMPLE 4: Indian Prime Minister A.B. Vajpayee's D-10 has lagna in
Scorpio and AL in Aquarius with Jupiter and Mercury. Mars and Ketu,
lords of Scorpio, are in fiery signs. His true nature when moving in the
society may be - scheming, deceptive, hard-working and dynamic. However,
Mercury and Jupiter in AL in Aquarius makes people think of him as a
saint, philosopher, intellectual and a noble and idealistic person.
These perceptions may not represent reality.

EXAMPLE 5: Dr. Murli Manohar Joshi, human resources minister in Indian
government, has lagna in Gemini and AL in Aries in D-24. So, in the
matter of learning and knowledge, he may be perceived by people as an
overenthusiastic, aggressive and dynamic person without much depth of
knowledge (AL in Aries). But the reality is that he is a very learned
and humble person (lagna in Gemini and lord in 12th).


Similarly, arudha padas of various houses deal with the maya (illusion)
cast in this material world over their significations.

For example, 10th house in D-10 stands for one's karma (action). Arudha
pada of 10th house (denoted by A10) stands for the maya associated with
one's action, i.e. workplace and the kind of places and people one moves
with in one's career.

EXAMPLE 6: I have 10th house in D-10 in Gemini. So I do intellectual
work (I write electronics-related software that deals with complicated
mathematical algorithms). My A10 in D-10 is in Aries and I typically
work at enterprising and dynamic engineering companies working with
high-tech electronics.

Another example is that the 7th house rules over relationships and
partnerships. So arudha pada of 7th house (denoted by A7) shows the kind
of people one associates with.

EXAMPLE 7: India's first Prime Minister Pundit Nehru has Venus in A7 in
D-24 and Sun in A7 in D-10. This shows that he would associate with
learned, cultured, diplomatic and sophisticated people and people with
luxuries (Venus), for discussing matters of knowledge (D-24). In career
(D-10), he would associate with politicians and powerful people (Sun).

EXAMPLE 8: Robert Koch, an accomplished astrologer who lived the life of
a monk for about two decades, has A7 in Aquarius with Rahu in it, in
both D-10 and D-20 (Vimsamsa, chart of religious and spiritual deeds).
This means that he would associate with philosophers (Aqaurius) and
occult and religious people (Rahu) in his career and spiritual

You can find many more examples. Swami Jayendra Sarawathi has Rahu in
Virgo in A7 in D-10, showing he would associate with learned (Virgo)
spiritual men (Rahu) in his career (D-10). Al Gore has exalted Sun in A7
in D-10, showing association of politicians and powerful men. Sir
Ashutosh Mukherjee had Jupiter in A7 in Gemini in D-10, showing
association of learned educationists, judges and other respected people
in career. Yasser Arafat has Sun and Saturn in A7 in D-10 and it shows
association with politicians and powerful men (Sun) as well as masses
(Saturn) and revolutionaries (Saturn in Ketu constellation).


In addition to lagna, arudha lagna and special lagnas, Parasara
mentioned Karaka lagnas (i.e. significator taken as ascendant). For
example, Mars signifies disease, disputes, litigation, loans, accidents,
real estate etc.

We should look at the relevant significators in various divisional
charts and consider them along with lagna. When a significator (karaka)
is stronger than ascendant, karaka lagna should be given weight.

EXAMPLE 9: Mercury occupies Aries in my D-4 (Chaturthamsa, chart of
fortune, assets and residence). Saturn aspects him from Libra. During
Aries antardasa as per Kalachakra dasa and Saturn's antardasa as per
Yogini dasa and as soon as Mercury's Vimsottari dasa started, I bought
an apartment. Lagna in D-4 is in Sagittarius. Why did 5th house (Aries)
and planets occupying/aspecting it give me a home?

It is because Mars is exalted in my D-4 and Aries happens to be the 4th
house! With Mars exalted and his dispositor Saturn also exalted, karaka
lagna of Mars is extremely powerful and it should be seen for acquiring
home etc.

EXAMPLE 10: Kenneth Starr has Ketu in 10th in D-10. It does not strongly
suggest a career in law. However, Sun is the significator of career and
Sun lagna in D-10 is very powerful (exalted Sun joins Mars in
moolatrikona and Saturn). From Sun lagna, Jupiter in 10th suggests a
career in law.


This is also called "Ghatika lagna" by some people. We will denote it by
GL. When dealing with power, authority and fame, use this lagna instead
of lagna. Use Sun's upper tip (and not Sun's center) when finding
sunrise time for the purpose of finding GL.

EXAMPLE 11: Madonna has Venus in Taurus in GL in D-10. This made her a
popular entertainer.

EXAMPLE 12: I have lagna in Gemini and GL in Capricorn in D-24 (chart of
learning). During Taurus dasa, Taurus antardasa (as per Kalachakra
dasa), I stood first in my state in higher secondary school exams with
the record score of the decade and went to India's top engineering
school - IIT.

Why did 12th house in D-24 give academic distinction and success?

It is because Taurus is 5th (fame) from GL! Saturn (GL lord and
significator of fame) aspects Taurus and Venus. Venus is in 2nd from GL.
So Taurus gave me success in competition and academic distinction.
However, being the 12th from lagna, it gave me a change of place for

EXAMPLE 13: Babu Rajendra Parasad became India's first President when
running Gemini's Kalachakra dasa and Mercury's Vimsottari dasa. His D-10
(career) has lagna in Cancer and Mercury occupies Capricorn with Sun and
exalted Mars.

Why did 12th house and 12th lord gave power in their dasas?

It is because GL is in Virgo. Mercury owns 1st and 10th from GL and
occupies 5th with Sun. His dispositor is exalted in 2nd from GL. So 10th
from GL gave an important event in his famous (from GL) career (10th in
D-10). Being the 10th from GL (with lord in 5th from GL), Gemini made
him popular. But being the 12th from lagna and with its lord in 7th, it
may have also given him pressures and disappointments on account of
relations with others and also machinations by secret enemies.

EXAMPLE 14: Saturn's pratyantardasa in Rahu's antardasa in Jupiter's
Vimsottari dasa made Atal Behari Vajpayee India's PM. Lagna in his D-10
is in Scorpio and Saturn and Rahu occupy Libra. Why did planets in 12th
give success?

It is because GL is in Libra. Saturn and Rahu own 5th from GL and they
occupy GL (Saturn in exaltation). Jupiter occupies 5th from GL. So this
pratyantardasa brought fame and success.

EXAMPLE 15: Dr. Murli Manohar Joshi has lagna in Gemini, Sun in Cancer
and Jupiter in Aquarius in D-10. Situation of 10th lord Jupiter in 9th
explains his career as a professor. But he is more popular as a
politician. How do we explain it?

His GL is in Libra in D-10. Sun in 10th from GL, aspected by exalted 7th
lord Mars, clearly shows that he is more popular as a politician.
Situation of GL lord Venus in 9th with Rahu also shows association with
hard-core religious forces (9th and Rahu) in his popular career (GL in

EXAMPLE 16: Fidel Castro has 10th lord Sun in Scorpio in GL in D-10.
This made him a powerful and famous ruler. From lagna in D-10, 10th is
Gemini and Moon and Rahu occupy it. This makes him an intelligent and
communist philosopher and thinker, in career. His success as a ruler is
better explained from GL.


This will be denoted by HL. Use HL instead of lagna when exmining
financial prosperity. Again use Sun's upper tip (and not Sun's center)
when finding the sunrise time for the purpose of finding HL.

EXAMPLE 17: Miss Jayalalita has lagna in Capricorn and Moon in Libra in
D-10. Moon in 10th in a Venusian sign gave her a career as a glamourous
filmstar. However, from HL in D-10, 10th has Saturn aspected by Sun
(with both having 5 bindus in ashtakavarga). This may indicate making
money as a public servant or in politics. Lord of 7th from HL is in
Taurus and Taurus dasa (Kalachakra dasa) gave financial prosperity to
partners in career. Argala from Rahu and Mars brought litigation about
the financial prosperity of partners.

EXAMPLE 18: Late N.T. Rama Rao had Venus in HL in D-10 and it shows
making money in a career as an entertainer. He had GL in D-10 in Leo and
Sun occupies Taurus (10th from GL). This shows popularity as an actor,
as well as popularity as a politician.

EXAMPLE 19: John Denver has Venus and Rahu in the 10th from HL in D-10.
This made him make money in a singing career.

Moreover, Scorpio is 1st from HL, 3rd from GL and 6th from lagna. During
Scorpio's Kalachakra dasa (1990-1997), he became popular as a singer
(3rd from GL), made money (HL), but had dissatisfaction (6th from


It is hoped that the examples given will help the reader understand how
to use special lagnas. I will cover special lagnas in greater depth in
my coming book "A Textbook of Applied Vedic Astrology". If you want to
learn more, wait for this book!

May Jupiter's light shine on us!

Brihaspati Gayatri, Vishwamitra/Gaathina Rishi Rig Veda 6.62.6