Date: Nov 8, 2005 11:30 PM
Subject: Re: [vedic-astrology] Re: Transits in Varga charts/Shri Sanjay Rath
Dear Vijaydas ji,
Comments to other points are given below.
As i am flying to india, tomorrow morning, for a week's vacation,cannot address all your questions in detail.But will try.Please address my 3 queries.Unless we address those three queries,we are never going to reach any conclusion.
Rath: I shall patiently await your return, and when in India, please call me at 98104 49850 It will be a pleasure to meet with you.
Rath: Are there signs in the sky?
I do not have much differences here regarding your understanding.Also to me it is a model representing the link between Yogapurusha and Kalapurusha,as shri Chandrahari has rightly explained.Also Sun the natural atmakaraka or soul is the primary cause.But I have one difference.Kshethra and Rashi does not convey the same meaning ,though they are having similar boundaries.
Rath: I don't think you have read my mail. I will reproduce it again for a quick reference.You can see from the mail that you are saying exactly the same thing that I am saying and this is what the Rishi's have said for ages, so to say Chandrahari, your new guru said this and implying it wa said for the first time is wrong. It is well know to every student of Jyotish that rashi really weans weight and implies the amount of something. One of its sources is Rahu+Sikhi and so on which is besides the point. Kshetra is sphere of influence and has a different connotation altogether.
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A planet has a desire and it can aspect only those Bhavas towards which it is Having a desire.
Also a planet is aspecting the 7th from itself due to an Astrological Reason.Seventh bhava shows our interactive environment.
Rath: May I ask - Why it does not? Where is the classical reference for saying that tithi varga cannot happen? In fact there are clear dicta for 'Tithi Varga'. Are you aware of this term? For example there is the Santana Tithi explained in Prasna Marga and not only the method of calculating this Tithi varga is given but also results and Remedial measures are given for various Tithi Varga like Poorna Tithi and so on. So your information/knowledge in this aspect is lacking. Please read this.
Rath: Planets can conjoin in navamsa only if we are allowed to draw a navamsa chart.
Whether we draw another chart or not planetary inlfuences will remain.What we see in Navamsha is not a placement(Yuti).Rather a different influence.Placement is what we call as Kshethra influence.If two planets are conjoining they are Individually related to that sign.
Rath:Mars in Aries have harmonic with Saturn in Capricorn? OR let us say, how does Mars in Aries have harmonic with Venus in Taurus?
Mars in Aries points to a first harmonic relationship of Mars with Aries (Yuti).Saturn in Capricorn too shows similar.Kshethra is first harmonic - showing the first kind of influence a planet is having with a sign.Now suppose the navamsha of Mars too falls in Aries(say Mars is at 3 degrees in Aries) -It means Mars has two kinds of relationship with sign Aries,from the same position in space.The second one being a ninth harmonic.
- Of or relating to harmony.
- Pleasing to the ear: harmonic orchestral effects.
- Characterized by harmony: a harmonic liturgical chant.
- Of or relating to harmonics.
- Integrated in nature.
- Any of a series of musical tones whose frequencies are integral multiples of the frequency of a fundamental tone.
- A tone produced on a stringed instrument by lightly touching an open or stopped vibrating string at a given fraction of its length so that both segments vibrate. Also called overtone, partial, partial tone.
- harmonics (used with a sing. verb) The theory or study of the physical properties and characteristics of musical sound.
- Physics. A wave whose frequency is a whole-number multiple of that of another.
Now let us suppose, if this Mars is at 28 degrees in Aries.Then it is in the Dashamsha of Saturn namely capricorn.This means apart from its placement and Yuti in Aries,Mars is having another relationship with the sign Capricorn.The frequency through which it relates to Capricorn is not similar to as it does with Aries.This is the tenth harmonic influence.
Rath: One more thing - am I supposed to know all the answers?
Pradeep:Sanjay ji,this is the most honest opinion.It is not at all possible that we know all the answers.But why should we prolifereate ideas when we ourselves are not sure.When doubts are arising,(it can be from me or a Guru like you),are we not responsible to take a Relook.
- 'Don't touch the pen if you are not sure of what you are going to write', and later he taught,
- You can never be sure of what you are writing if your mana is not convinced, and the mana is only convinced if the mantra is within you.