Dear members,
I would like to give my observations. While there are many methods for determining the number of issues of a native, the most common one used is the number of expired amsas of the lord of the 5th. Any malefic amsa has to be deducted.
In the current email I will confine myself to Ashtakavarga principles. I use Raman Ayanamsa and Varahamihira’s Ashtakavarga rules.
Sri Samarth Rao has already given a good analysis. In the Prasthara Ashtakavarga, 5th house from Jupiter is stronger than 5th house form Lagna. Hence the former is considered. In the Prasthara AV of Jupiter, bindus in 5th house is due to Sun, Mars, Mercury and Venus. Any planet which is ill-placed is bad while a planet in own or exaltation sign increase the number of children. Here, Sun is debilitated and hence results in the destruction of a child. Mars is Lagna lord and well placed in 2nd resulting in gain of a child. Mercury though in a friendly sign is in a dustana. Such a combination results in no child or death in the mother’s womb. Venus is in own sign but in a dustana. Being in his own sign, he has the capacity to give 2 children, but since he is in dustana, loss of a child is indicated.
The number of children will be
Sun -1
Mars +1
Mercury -1
Venus +1 and -1
ie 2 healthy children and 3 children who are going to die early. I have my own doubts about Ectopic pregnancy. My limited knowledge makes me not accept it as a normal child birth.
Timing of events is another interesting feature in Ashtakavarga. One can use Ashtakavarga Rasi Dasa or Ashtakavarga Graha Dasa for timing. I have tried it with many cases and am not fully satisfied with the use of this method. While in some cases, the results are perfect, there are a few cases in which timing failed. My own limitations in this subject could be the reason of failure.
The Ashtakavarga Graha Dasa is computed as follows. The Mahadasa periods are calculated in the similar fashion as Graha/Nakshatra Dasa (usually Vimshottari Dasa). Only the calculation of the Antardasas differs. The order of Antardasa under any given Mahadasa is Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, Sun, Venus, Mercury, Moon and Lagna (according to their distance from Earth). All antardasas are of the same time span ie Mahadasa is divided into 8 equal parts and the first 1/8 part is given to Saturn, 2nd 1/8 part to Jupiter, 3rd 1/8 part to Mars and so on. If we consider Jupiter Mahadasa which is for 16 years, then the first antardasa will be of Saturn lasting for 2 years, second will be of Jupiter for the next two years and so. The last 2 years belongs to Lagna.
In Carmen’s horoscope, Ashtakavarga Graha Dasa will be as follows:
Since Lagna is Vargothama, Sataabhdika Dasa pattern is applicable.
Maha Dasas:
Ven: 1947-12-08 - 1957-12-08
Merc: 1957-12-08 - 1967-12-08
Jup: 1967-12-08 - 1987-12-08
Mars: 1987-12-08 - 2007-12-09
Sat: 2007-12-09 - 2037-12-08
Sun: 2037-12-08 - 2042-12-09
Moon: 2042-12-09 - 2047-12-09
Jupiter is capable of giving children. Antardasa’s in Jupiter’s Mahadasa are as follows:
Jupiter Mahadasa - 8 Dec 1967 to 8 Dec 1987
Saturn 8-Dec-1967 - 8-Jun-1970
Jupiter 8-Jun-1970 - 7-Dec-1972
Mars 7-Dec-1972 - 8-Jun-1975 <<<
Sun 8-Jun-1975 - 7-Dec-1977 <<<
Venus 7-Dec-1977 - 7-Jun-1980 <<<
Mercury 7-Jun-1980 - 7-Dec-1982 <<<
Moon 7-Dec-1982 - 7-Jun-1985
Lagna 7-Jun-1985 - 8-Dec-1987
In the Dasa of Mars, the antardasa’s are as follows:
Mars Mahadasa 8 Dec 1987 to 9 Dec 2007
Saturn 8-Dec-1987 - 8-Jun-1990
Jupiter 8-Jun-1990 - 7-Dec-1992
Mars 7-Dec-1992 - 8-Jun-1995 <<<
Sun 8-Jun-1995 - 8-Dec-1997 <<<
Venus 8-Dec-1997 - 8-Jun-2000 <<<
Mercury 8-Jun-2000 - 8-Dec-2002 <<<
Moon 8-Dec-2002 - 8-Jun-2005
Lagna 8-Jun-2005 - 9-Dec-2007
According the standard principles, planets which are not involved in contributing any points will not give results.
In Rasi Ashtakavarga Dasa, Mahadasa pattern is similar to Chara dasa (or other Rasi Dasas). For antardasa, each rasi dasa is divided into 12 equal parts. The first part belongs to the sign occupied by Jupiter, 2nd part belongs to the 2nd house from Jupiter and so on. The last part belongs to 12th house from Jupiter. This is applicable for timing events related to children etc. If one needs to time death, he can consider Shoola Dasa. The antardasa begins with the sign occupied by Saturn.
The results can be further narrowed down using the following procedure:
The Sodya pinda of Jupiter is multiplied by 7 and divided by 27. The remainder obtained is noted. This number counted from Ashwini or Nakshatra occupied by Jupiter is kept as reference. When Jupiter in his transit comes to the said Nakshatra or its trines, results are felt.
In Carmen’s horoscope, Sodya Pinda of Jupiter is 133. When multiplied by 7 and divided by 27, we get 13. From Ashwini it is the Hasta Nakshatra and from Dhanishta (occupied by Jupiter) it is Pusyami.
Around July 1981, Jupiter was in Hasta Nakshatra. My guess would be that the first miscarriage took place around this time. We can judge the other issues in a similar manner.
Some scholars consider the number of bindus in the 5th house from Jupiter in his Prasthara Ashtakavarga. This is multiplied by Jupiter Sodya pinda and divided by 27. The reminder is added to Ashwini and when Jupiter transits this star or its trines, a child is born.
Om Tat Sat,
Raman Suprajarama
Carmen
Natal Chart
Date: November 3, 1950
Time: 7:15:00
Time Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT)
Place: 18 E 25' 00", 33 S 55' 00"
Cape Town, South Africa
Altitude: 0.00 meters
Lunar Yr-Mo: Vikriti - Aswayuja
Tithi: Krishna Ashtami (Ra) (32.98% left)
Vedic Weekday: Friday (Ve)
Nakshatra: Aasresha (Me) (70.93% left)
Yoga: Sukla (Mo) (82.17% left)
Karana: Kaulava (Ma) (65.96% left)
Hora Lord: Mercury (5 min sign: Aq)
Mahakala Hora: Venus (5 min sign: Pi)
Kaala Lord: Venus (Mahakala: Venus)
Sunrise: 5:48:49
Sunset: 19:11:37
Janma Ghatis: 3.5906
Ayanamsa: 21-43-14.91NOTE : Raman Ayanamsha
Sidereal Time: 9:16:16
Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa
Lagna 14 Sc 27' 31.06" Anu 4 Sc Sc
Sun - BK 18 Li 30' 02.35" Swat 4 Li Pi
Moon - AK 20 Cn 32' 34.73" Asre 2 Cn Cp
Mars - DK 5 Sg 59' 53.44" Mool 2 Sg Ta
Mercury - AmK 19 Li 26' 45.42" Swat 4 Li Pi
Jupiter - GK 6 Aq 02' 06.81" Dhan 4 Aq Sc
Venus - MK 15 Li 48' 03.72" Swat 3 Li Aq
Saturn - PK 6 Vi 38' 04.87" UPha 3 Vi Aq
Rahu 4 Pi 10' 36.95" UBha 1 Pi Le
Ketu 4 Vi 10' 36.95" UPha 3 Vi Aq
Maandi 0 Sg 54' 58.72" Mool 1 Sg Ar
Gulika 18 Sc 15' 59.09" Jye 1 Sc Sg
Bhava Lagna 9 Sc 59' 04.49" Anu 2 Sc Vi
Hora Lagna 1 Sg 31' 42.41" Mool 1 Sg Ar
Ghati Lagna 6 Aq 09' 36.19" Dhan 4 Aq Sc
Vighati Lagna 29 Sg 19' 05.05" USha 1 Sg Sg
Varnada Lagna 14 Sg 27' 31.06" Aswi 1 Sg Sg
Sree Lagna 29 Aq 07' 08.84" PBha 3 Aq Ge
Pranapada Lagna 29 Sg 22' 40.84" USha 1 Sg Sg
Indu Lagna 20 Le 32' 34.73" PPha 3 Le Li
Dhooma 1 Pi 50' 02.35" PBha 4 Pi Cn
Vyatipata 28 Ar 09' 57.65" Krit 1 Ar Sg
Parivesha 28 Li 09' 57.65" Visa 3 Li Ge
Indra Chapa 1 Vi 50' 02.35" UPha 2 Vi Cp
Upaketu 18 Vi 30' 02.35" Hast 3 Vi Ge
Kaala 14 Cp 33' 56.97" Srav 2 Cp Ta
Mrityu 26 Aq 19' 30.45" PBha 2 Aq Ta
Artha Prahara 17 Pi 32' 10.30" Reva 1 Pi Sg
Yama Ghantaka 8 Ar 35' 32.75" Aswi 3 Ar Ge
Prana Sphuta 0 Cp 33' 34.41" USha 2 Cp Cp
Deha Sphuta 2 Ta 36' 36.95" Krit 2 Ta Cp
Mrityu Sphuta 26 Pi 21' 55.97" Reva 3 Pi Aq
Sookshma TriSphuta 29 Cp 32' 07.32" Dhan 2 Cp Vi
TriSphuta 23 Li 16' 04.88" Visa 1 Li Ar
ChatusSphuta 11 Ta 46' 07.24" Rohi 1 Ta Ar
PanchaSphuta 15 Ar 56' 44.19" Bhar 1 Ar Le
V2 14 Vi 27' 31.06" Aswi 1 Vi Ta
V3 14 Le 27' 31.06" Aswi 1 Le Ar
V4 14 Cp 27' 31.06" Aswi 1 Cp Ta
V5 14 Ar 27' 31.06" Aswi 1 Ar Sg
V6 14 Cp 27' 31.06" Aswi 1 Cp Vi
V7 14 Le 27' 31.06" Aswi 1 Le Sg
V8 14 Vi 27' 31.06" Aswi 1 Vi Ta
V9 14 Sg 27' 31.06" Aswi 1 Sg Ar
V10 14 Ta 27' 31.06" Aswi 1 Ta Ta
V11 14 Ar 27' 31.06" Aswi 1 Ar Sg
V12 14 Ta 27' 31.06" Aswi 1 Ta Vi
Kunda 1 Li 08' 56.18" Chit 3 Li Li
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|Ju GL | |Mo AL |
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Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):
Merc Merc 1945-11-23 Ket 1948-04-18 Ven 1949-04-15
Sun 1952-02-14 Moon 1952-12-22 Mars 1954-05-22
Rah 1955-05-19 Jup 1957-12-08 Sat 1960-03-12
Ket Ket 1962-11-24 Ven 1963-04-19 Sun 1964-06-19
Moon 1964-10-27 Mars 1965-05-25 Rah 1965-10-24
Jup 1966-11-12 Sat 1967-10-19 Merc 1968-11-26
Ven Ven 1969-11-23 Sun 1973-03-22 Moon 1974-03-22
Mars 1975-11-24 Rah 1977-01-21 Jup 1980-01-22
Sat 1982-09-24 Merc 1985-11-23 Ket 1988-09-24
Sun Sun 1989-11-23 Moon 1990-03-10 Mars 1990-09-12
Rah 1991-01-16 Jup 1991-12-12 Sat 1992-09-30
Merc 1993-09-12 Ket 1994-07-18 Ven 1994-11-24
Moon Moon 1995-11-24 Mars 1996-09-24 Rah 1997-04-21
Jup 1998-10-25 Sat 2000-02-21 Merc 2001-09-24
Ket 2003-02-20 Ven 2003-09-25 Sun 2005-05-22
Mars Mars 2005-11-24 Rah 2006-04-19 Jup 2007-05-07
Sat 2008-04-12 Merc 2009-05-22 Ket 2010-05-20
Ven 2010-10-19 Sun 2011-12-18 Moon 2012-04-21
Rah Rah 2012-11-23 Jup 2015-08-06 Sat 2017-12-29
Merc 2020-11-06 Ket 2023-05-23 Ven 2024-06-10
Sun 2027-06-11 Moon 2028-05-04 Mars 2029-11-06
Jup Jup 2030-11-24 Sat 2033-01-10 Merc 2035-07-25
Ket 2037-10-31 Ven 2038-10-07 Sun 2041-06-04
Moon 2042-03-22 Mars 2043-07-25 Rah 2044-06-29
Sat Sat 2046-11-24 Merc 2049-11-27 Ket 2052-08-06
Ven 2053-09-15 Sun 2056-11-15 Moon 2057-10-28
Mars 2059-05-26 Rah 2060-07-05 Jup 2063-05-11
Ashtakavarga of Rasi Chart: NOTE : Varahamihira Options
Ar Ta Ge Cn Le Vi Li Sc Sg Cp Aq Pi
As 2 5 4 4 4 5 4 4* 6 4 4 3
Su 5 3 5 5 4 6 5* 1 5 3 2 4
Mo 6 5 1 5* 6 4 2 2 5 7 5 1
Ma 2 3 2 4 4 5 1 2 6* 3 2 5
Me 3 3 6 4 6 6 5* 2 7 3 5 4
Ju 3 4 4 5 7 3 3 7 4 5 5* 6
Ve 2 5 6 4 5 4 4* 6 5 3 5 3
Sa 3 4 2 4 4 5* 2 4 2 4 3 2
Sodhya Pinda Rasi Pinda Graha Pinda
As 125 83 42
Su 174 80 94
Mo 169 92 77
Ma 147 85 62
Me 146 89 57
Ju 133 105 28
Ve 173 129 44
Sa 92 67 25
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